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Okay so I have a business that was provided to me from my father since Covid took heavy toll on him mentally. So then I took over the business but then during Covid my father was a tenant, and during Covid time, unable to pay people since no income due to construction business - lockdown time in Covid. So what then happened also, unable to pay rent, the landlord, becoming his creditor naturally, blacklisted him and caused all of us to have no choice but to stay on but in same time he applied for eviction process to start, so also since my father also had to sign a acknowledgement of debt two times, he was basically forced to sign something payment terms not affordable, and in process the debt ran up, since the landlord did not want the amounts that were afforded, but that of the full amount he dictated. So in the end he made threats to me and my business and said my father used me as a vehicle, my father is in his *`s, to move forward and defraud everyone in process. Which is and was obviously not the case. He tried to liquidate the company last year, company did not sign lease or anything, he lost the case, and this time he has applied again, but also included my father this time as another respondent. What is going on, and what should we do? He is very vindictive and also discussed my fathers affairs with him with my landlord.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Here are some steps you can consider:
- **Legal Representation:** Consult a lawyer specializing in landlord-tenant law.
- **Evidence Collection:** Gather all relevant documents, including lease agreements, payment records, and any communication with the landlord.
- **Defense Preparation:** Prepare a defense based on the financial impact of COVID-* and the landlord's conduct.
- **Mediation:** Consider mediation to resolve the dispute amicably.
Do you have a lawyer currently representing you and your father?
Already evicted, and staying at this other address now in Somerset West, South Africa. Its here that this landlord came to harass me at my own landlord.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the harassment you're facing. Here are a few steps you might consider:
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer in Somerset West who specializes in landlord-tenant disputes.
- **Harassment Documentation:** Keep detailed records of any harassment incidents.
- **Protection Orders:** Consider applying for a protection or restraining order if the harassment continues.
Would you like information on how to find a local lawyer or details on protection orders in South Africa?
At some stage this creditor was provided the option to have a stake in the business. His response, the business is worth nothing. Then also he continues to infer there is a lot of money to pay back the debt owed to him, while the company survives and not thrive. There is not enough assets to cover the debt. Still he continues to try and liquidate the company. The business is a going concern. What to think and do here?
Hello ****,
Given the complexity of your situation, here are a few steps you can consider:
- **Legal Consultation:** Consult with a lawyer who specializes in business insolvency and creditor disputes.
- **Financial Review:** Get a professional assessment of your business's financials to present a clear picture to the court.
- **Negotiation:** Try to negotiate with the creditor, possibly offering a structured repayment plan.
- **Mediation:** Consider mediation as an alternative dispute resolution to avoid liquidation.
Do you have legal representation currently, or would you like information on finding a local lawyer specialized in business insolvency?
I want to know if there will be any platform that I can reach out to where a person can help me financially out of good will with this matter?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the difficulties you're facing. While finding someone to help financially out of goodwill can be challenging, you might consider the following options:
- **Crowdfunding Platforms:** Websites like GoFundMe allow you to raise money for personal causes.
- **Charitable Organizations:** Look for local organizations in North Holland that might offer financial assistance for businesses affected by COVID-*.
- **Government Grants:** Check for any government grants or financial aid programs available for businesses impacted by the pandemic.
Would you like more information on any of these options?
In South Africa I tried that already for my business but was not allowed.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your continued struggles. Let's focus on your current situation in North Holland. To better assist you, could you provide more details about the current legal issue you're facing with your business here? This will help me offer relevant advice specific to your location.
I stay in South Africa, Somerset West.
Hello ****,
Thank you for the clarification. Since you are located in Somerset West, South Africa, here are some steps that might help you:
- **Legal Aid:** Look for local legal aid organizations that offer free or low-cost legal services.
- **Debt Counseling:** Seek advice from a debt counselor to explore options like debt review or restructuring.
- **Business Support:** Contact the Small Enterprise Development Agency (SEDA) for business support and advice.
Would you like more information on any of these options?
So even though he applied for a liquidation attempt, notice of motion delivered yesterday, I can still look out for options like debt counselling? But to be honest, the debt is not mine, as my father was the tenant and the person owing the money.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Here are some steps you can consider:
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer who specializes in business insolvency and creditor disputes.
- **Debt Counseling:** Explore debt counseling services to manage or restructure the debt.
- **Clarification:** Ensure the debt is correctly attributed and you are not held liable for your father's obligations.
Would you like more detailed information on debt counseling services in Somerset West, South Africa?
- **Clarification:** Ensure the debt is correctly attributed and you are not held liable for your father's obligations. But this creditor laughs in my face and say this is also my debt, even though I signed nothing!
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your challenging situation. Here are a few steps to address the incorrect attribution of debt:
- **Legal Advice:** Seek immediate legal representation to clarify the debt attribution.
- **Documentation:** Collect all relevant documents proving that the debt is solely your father's.
- **Formal Dispute:** File a formal dispute against the creditor's claim in court.
Would you like assistance in finding a local lawyer in Somerset West?
what is a formal dispute and can you give me a example of how it must be done, the content thereof please?
Hello ****,
A formal dispute is a legal process where you challenge a claim or decision made against you. Here's a concise example of how to file a formal dispute:
Steps to File a Formal Dispute:
*. **Preparation:**
- Gather all relevant documents (e.g., lease agreements, payment records, communication with the creditor).
*. **Drafting the Dispute Letter:**
- **Header:**
- Your Name and Contact Information
- Date
- Creditor's Name and Contact Information
- **Subject:**
- "Formal Dispute of Debt Claim"
- **Body:**
- Introduction: State your name and describe the context.
- Details: Clearly outline why you dispute the debt, referencing specific documents and facts.
- Request: Specify what you want (e.g., withdrawal of the claim, correction of records).
- **Closing:**
- Sign and date the letter.
Example Content:
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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, Postal Code]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
[Creditor's Name]
[Creditor's Address]
[City, Postal Code]
Subject: Formal Dispute of Debt Claim
Dear [
Can I do this even though he already applied for liquidation, notice of motion delivered yesterday. Not me or the company signed anything, neither is responsible for this debt.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the ongoing issues you're facing. Here are some steps to consider:
- **Immediate Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer specializing in business insolvency and creditor disputes.
- **File a Response to Liquidation:** You can still file a formal response to the liquidation attempt, disputing the claim.
- **Documentation:** Gather all documents proving the debt is not yours.
Would you like more detailed information on finding a local lawyer in Somerset West?
You can still file a formal response to the liquidation attempt, disputing the claim. What is meant here? Is this the affidavit they speak of?
Hello ****,
In this context, filing a formal response to the liquidation attempt typically means submitting a legal document to the court disputing the creditor's claim. This response often includes an affidavit, which is a sworn statement of facts.
Key Points:
- **Affidavit:** A sworn statement detailing why you dispute the claim.
- **Supporting Documents:** Include all relevant evidence proving the debt is not yours.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to help draft and submit this response.
Would you like more details on how to draft an affidavit or find legal assistance in your area?
So I can myself go to court, not necessarily filing the affidavit, but must file the intention to oppose, what must I do?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry you're facing this difficult situation. Here's what you need to do to file an intention to oppose:
Steps to File an Intention to Oppose:
*. **Obtain the Notice of Motion:** Review the document carefully.
*. **Draft the Notice of Intention to Oppose:** This should include:
- Your details (name, address, etc.)
- A statement that you intend to oppose the application.
- The case number and parties involved.
*. **File the Notice:** Submit it to the court where the liquidation application was filed.
*. **Serve the Notice:** Deliver a copy to the creditor or their lawyer.
Would you like more details on drafting this document?
I want to know something. This creditor basically stalks my father in public, running up to him and wants still to intimidate him about debt. What can one do about such behaviour, my father I can see is really distressed about this, and also irritated at times. What to do?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your father's distress. Here are some steps you can consider to address the creditor's behavior:
- **Document the Incidents:** Keep a detailed record of each encounter, including dates, times, and descriptions.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer about filing for a protection or restraining order.
- **Report to Authorities:** Consider reporting the harassment to local authorities.
Would you like more information on obtaining a protection order in Somerset West?
So even though my father owes him the money, if he acts in a sense like I have mentioned, my father can still get a harassment/protection order against him?
Hello ****,
Yes, your father can still seek a harassment/protection order even if he owes the creditor money. Here are the steps:
- **Document Incidents:** Keep detailed records of each harassment incident.
- **Consult a Lawyer:** Seek legal advice to understand the process.
- **File for Protection Order:** Contact your local court to file a protection or restraining order.
Would you like more details on how to file for a protection order in Somerset West?
Yes please. We stay in Somerset West, he stays in Strand, the neighboring town. What and how to do please?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the ongoing harassment. Here's how to file for a protection order in Somerset West:
- **Visit Your Local Magistrate's Court:** Go to the Somerset West Magistrate's Court.
- **Complete the Application:** Fill out the necessary forms for a protection order.
- **Document Evidence:** Provide detailed records of harassment incidents.
- **Submit the Application:** File the completed forms with the court.
Would you like more details on the specific forms or the court's contact information?
He claims my father may not assist in the business as he is retired and the not CEO. But I know little of building work, and is in a learning process of all things needed to be proper builder. I look after my parents. In exchange, them living with me, my father helps me as a consultant, supervising also on jobs. Is there a problem with this?
Hello ****,
Thank you for your detailed explanation. Here is some general information that might help you understand the situation better:
- **Retirement and Consulting:** There are no laws that generally prevent a retired person from acting as a consultant, even if they are not the CEO.
- **Employment Law:** Ensure that any work your father does complies with local labor laws and regulations.
- **Contractual Agreements:** It might be beneficial to have a formal agreement outlining your father's role and responsibilities.
Is there a specific legal concern you have regarding your father's involvement in the business? This will help me provide more tailored advice.
- **Contractual Agreements:** It might be beneficial to have a formal agreement outlining your father's role and responsibilities. I have honestly thought about something like this, but since it was between us, it was not formal yet, but oral type of agreement. Is there a problem with this, or can I still do this now, but the timing bothers me, given his liquidation application against the company, and how they have twisted things in the past for their pleasure and advantage.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the difficult situation you're facing. Here are some steps you can consider regarding formalizing the agreement with your father:
- **Formal Agreement:** Even though it was initially oral, you can still create a written agreement outlining your father's role and responsibilities.
- **Timing:** Ensure the agreement is clear and reflects the actual working relationship to avoid any misunderstandings, especially given the ongoing liquidation proceedings.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to draft the agreement to ensure it's legally sound and cannot be easily contested.
Would you like more information on how to draft such an agreement?
So I should not set this up now with power of attorney?
Hello ****,
Setting up a power of attorney (POA) is a significant decision and may not directly address the issue of your father's involvement in the business. Here are some considerations:
- **Purpose of POA:** A POA allows someone to make legal and financial decisions on behalf of another. Ensure this aligns with your needs.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to understand the implications and ensure it supports your objectives.
- **Current Agreement:** Formalize the consulting agreement with your father to clarify his role without necessarily using a POA.
Would you like more information on how to set up a power of attorney or formalize the consulting agreement?
I am sorry, I used wording I did not understand, namely power of attorney. Should I setup this agreement now, even though there is a liquidation attempt against the company, and given the timing aspect and what they allegate in their application of my father`s involvement, defrauding everyone etc, and if I should and can still, who can help me here? Can I do it myself?
Hello ****,
Given the complexity of your situation, here are some steps you can consider for setting up the agreement with your father:
- **Formal Agreement:** You can formalize the consulting agreement with your father even during the liquidation attempt. Ensure the agreement is clear about his role and responsibilities.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to draft the agreement to ensure it is legally sound and cannot be easily contested.
- **Documentation:** Keep all relevant documents to show that the agreement is genuine and not a means to defraud creditors.
Would you like more detailed information on finding a local lawyer to assist with drafting the agreement?
Can you please provide me a example of how I can do this myself?
Certainly, ****. Here’s a basic example of how you can draft a consulting agreement with your father. This will help provide clarity and protect both parties.
Consulting Agreement Example
**Consulting Agreement**
**This Consulting Agreement ("Agreement") is made and entered into as of [Date], by and between:**
**Company:**
- Name: [Your Name/Your Company’s Name]
- Address: [Your Address]
- Contact: [Your Email/Phone Number]
**Consultant:**
- Name: [Your Father's Name]
- Address: [Your Father’s Address]
- Contact: [Your Father's Email/Phone Number]
***. Services:**
- The Consultant agrees to provide the following services: [Detail the services your father will provide, e.g., supervising construction projects, consulting on building work, etc.]
***. Term:**
- This Agreement will commence on [Start Date] and will continue until [End Date] or until terminated in accordance with this Agreement.
***. Compensation:**
- The Company agrees to compensate the Consultant as follows: [Detail the compensation structure, e.g., hourly rate, project-based fee, etc.]
***. Responsibilities:**
- The Consultant will perform the services to the best of their ability
What should the start date be here? The creditor`s attorney made his own allegations and such, threats, sarcasm, but never asked for anything like this I can remember or what my father ever said. How do I end of this document, we both sign it below somewhere, and there is a witness to sign?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Here’s how you can complete the consulting agreement, including the start date and signatures:
Consulting Agreement Example
**Consulting Agreement**
**This Consulting Agreement ("Agreement") is made and entered into as of [Date], by and between:**
**Company:**
- Name: [Your Name/Your Company’s Name]
- Address: [Your Address]
- Contact: [Your Email/Phone Number]
**Consultant:**
- Name: [Your Father's Name]
- Address: [Your Father’s Address]
- Contact: [Your Father's Email/Phone Number]
***. Services:**
- The Consultant agrees to provide the following services: [Detail the services your father will provide, e.g., supervising construction projects, consulting on building work, etc.]
***. Term:**
- This Agreement will commence on [Start Date] and will continue until [End Date] or until terminated in accordance with this Agreement.
***. Compensation:**
- The Company agrees to compensate the Consultant as follows: [Detail the compensation structure, e.g., hourly rate, project-based fee, etc.]
***. Responsibilities:**
- The Consultant will perform the services to the best of their ability.
***
What can a protection order against this vindictive creditor look like, who attempts each time to harass my father in public when he finds him there. Its almost as if they knew where he was each time.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your father's distress. Here’s a general outline of what a protection order against the creditor might include:
- **Prohibition of Contact:** The creditor is prohibited from contacting your father directly or indirectly.
- **Stay Away Requirement:** The creditor must stay a certain distance away from your father, his home, and place of work.
- **No Harassment Clause:** The creditor must cease all forms of harassment, including public and private confrontations.
Steps to Obtain a Protection Order:
*. **Document Incidents:** Keep detailed records of each harassment incident.
*. **Visit the Local Magistrate's Court:** Go to the Somerset West Magistrate's Court to obtain the necessary forms.
*. **Complete the Application:** Fill out the required forms with details of the harassment.
*. **Submit the Application:** File the completed forms with the court.
Would you like more detailed instructions for filing the protection order?
Please provide me a example of how this can look please. I am also under the impression given false landlord info provided to us about the next door neighbor who is also a technician, that this very technician is the one who regularly watches us as the creditor once threatened and said. The creditor also discussed something along the lines that resembled our matter onto facebook in beginning *. He did not provide names who he was talking about, but you could see and understand from the type of content he was talking about us. This technician is resembling the same style, exhibiting the same style seen at our previous address where a telecoms technician also stayed later on in * and I believe followed instructions from his father-in-law who spoke of a 6 years of war against us. Also this father-in-law, the creditor visited him at work back then to discuss apparently boundary wall that needed to be erected between the two of them when building work was suppose to start, with us out of the creditor`s dwelling. I dont trust the relationship and believe they have conspired to undermine our business. I believe that the creditor and the father-in-law, which was our neighbor at the time at previous address, they found mutual agenda within each other, and believe working together, and setup this new neighbor next to us, the same anomalies followed as was seen at previous address, even hardware addresses that was of the same family. What to do?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the distressing situation you and your father are facing. Here is an example of how a protection order can look, and steps to file it.
~Protection Order Example
**Protection Order Application**
*. **Applicant:**
- Name: [Your Father's Name]
- Address: [Your Father's Address]
- Contact: [Your Father's Email/Phone Number]
*. **Respondent:**
- Name: [Creditor’s Name]
- Address: [Creditor’s Address]
- Contact: [Creditor’s Email/Phone Number]
*. **Details of Harassment:**
- Description of incidents: [Detailed account of each harassment incident, including dates, locations, and nature of harassment]
- Witnesses: [Names and contact information of any witnesses]
*. **Relief Sought:**
- **Prohibition of Contact:** The respondent is prohibited from contacting the applicant directly or indirectly.
- **Stay Away Requirement:** The respondent must stay at least [specified distance] away from the applicant, his home, and place of work.
- **No Harassment Clause:** The respondent must cease all forms of harassment, including public and
Then I also believe my sister`s fake employment with a person called Stanley, who never came to see her in person, was also a fictional character created by these people, although she did receive onto whatsapp a copy of his id book, that somehow resembled the names provided to her. But the person`s linkedin profile I feel to be fake, the photo was extremely small, much smaller than other profile photos. He kept making her promises of financial commitment, but never got so far to pay her her outstanding salary, always claiming a bank called santnder key person`s signatures needed, and also that of another german bank. Then he promised her all kinds of exotic benefits, all that never realised, too good to be true. I know that this person could very well exist, and live in a world of his own, or this was setup, since soon as she stopped all communication, since they or he still pulsed her at times, probably being scared she will contact authorities, I noted in that very same time frame the application for liquidation was made, and also this neighbor now knows that she is living with us since she has no job, and fears where to apply since we know of the cellular anomalies and mitm as was seen with ssl errors in internet sessions, and also that they told her, this Stanley guy, or rather his accomplice, that if they wanted to know if someone paid them, they hack those people`s phones. Surely this case must be made to the police, what to do here, how to do it?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your sister's situation. Here are some steps you can consider for reporting the suspected fraud and harassment:
- **Document Everything:** Keep detailed records of all communications, including WhatsApp messages, emails, and any promises made by "Stanley."
- **Report to Police:** Go to your local police station in Somerset West to file a report. Provide all documented evidence to support your case.
- **Consult a Lawyer:** Seek legal advice to understand your options and the best course of action.
Would you like more detailed information on how to file a police report in Somerset West?
But a police officer told a friend of hers that if this is reported, then she can be locked up also for some reason?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about this distressing situation. It's important to understand your rights and responsibilities when reporting a suspected crime. Here are some general steps and considerations:
Steps to Report Suspected Fraud and Harassment:
*. **Document Everything:**
- Keep detailed records of all communications, including WhatsApp messages, emails, and any promises made by "Stanley."
*. **Seek Legal Advice:**
- Consult with a lawyer to understand the implications and to ensure that you are protected when making a report.
*. **Report to Police:**
- Go to your local police station in Somerset West.
- Provide all documented evidence to support your case.
Important Considerations:
- **Legal Advice:** Before making any report, it's essential to seek legal advice to ensure that you and your sister are protected and that you understand the full scope of the situation.
- **False Accusations:** Ensure that the evidence you provide is factual and well-documented to avoid any claims of false reporting which could lead to legal issues.
Would you like assistance in finding a local lawyer in Somerset West to help you with this matter?
So this fake employment is then thought to be fraud?
Hello ****,
Yes, the situation you described regarding your sister's employment with "Stanley" does sound like it could be fraudulent. Here are some steps you can take:
- **Document Everything:** Keep detailed records of all communications and promises made.
- **Seek Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to ensure you understand the implications and protect yourself and your sister.
- **Report to Police:** File a report with all documented evidence.
Would you like assistance in finding a local lawyer in Somerset West to help you with this matter?
What is also funny is how he once reacted, just like he neighbor probably heard, this Stanley which I think is the neighbor as well, the technician, said how he will send down some investigators to see who meddled in his business. What kind of tactic was this?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the distressing situation you and your family are experiencing. The tactic you described, where "Stanley" or the neighbor threatened to send investigators, can be a form of intimidation. Here are some key points to consider in such situations:
- **Intimidation Tactic:** This can be used to scare or pressure you into compliance or silence.
- **Document Everything:** Keep detailed records of all threats and communications.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to understand your rights and how to protect yourself.
- **Report to Authorities:** If you feel threatened, report the intimidation to the local authorities.
Would you like assistance in finding a local lawyer in Somerset West to help you with this matter?
Thank you, you are helping us immensely, last 4 years were absolute hell
You're welcome, ****. I'm sorry to hear about your difficult situation. Here are some consolidated steps to take, considering the various issues you've mentioned:
Legal Steps:
- **Consult a Lawyer:** Seek immediate legal advice to understand your rights and options. A lawyer can assist with:
- **Filing for a Protection Order:** To protect your father from harassment by the creditor.
- **Responding to Liquidation Attempts:** To formally dispute the liquidation claim against your company.
- **Drafting a Consulting Agreement:** To formalize your father’s role in the business.
Reporting Fraud:
- **Document Everything:** Keep detailed records of all communications, threats, and incidents.
- **Report to Police:** File a report with all documented evidence regarding the suspected fraud and harassment.
- **Seek Legal Advice:** Ensure you have legal support when making these reports to avoid any complications.
Finding Legal Assistance:
Would you like assistance in finding a local lawyer in Somerset West to help you with these matters? This can provide more personalized and comprehensive support.
Contact Details:
If you need contact details for local authorities or courts, I can provide that information as well.
Would you like more information on finding a lawyer or details on how to file a police report in Somerset West?
Can I for instance, since this creditor also discussed my matters last year with my own landlord, can I raise this now, and also at the same time dispute the debt also he thinks is owed by myself and the company? I also want to investigate the next door neighbor, I believe he was hired by the creditor to spy on us and harass us. Should I document my cyber interference claims, phones and internet, along with that of my sister, or should she just make the case against the fake employer on her own at police? Also I want a harassment order at least also against the next door neighbor. Can you please outline with detailed examples of how these must be done please?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the ongoing difficulties you're facing. Here are some steps to address your concerns:
*. Disputing the Debt and Liquidation:
- **Document Everything:**
- Gather all communications and documents related to the debt and your business.
- **Formal Dispute:**
- File a formal dispute against the creditor's claim in court.
- Include an affidavit detailing why you dispute the debt.
*. Discussing Past Matters with Your Landlord:
- **Legal Advice:**
- Consult a lawyer to understand if discussing your matters with your landlord constitutes a breach of privacy or defamation.
- **Evidence:**
- Document any conversations or communications that occurred between the creditor and your landlord.
*. Investigating Cyber Interference:
- **Document Incidents:**
- Keep detailed records of any suspicious activity, including dates, times, and nature of the interference.
- **Report to Police:**
- File a police report with all documented evidence.
*. Harassment Order Against Neighbor:
- **Document Harassment:**
- Keep detailed records of any harassment incidents involving the neighbor.
- **File for a Protection Order:**
- Visit the Somerset West Magistr
Consult a lawyer to understand if discussing your matters with your landlord constitutes a breach of privacy or defamation. - **Evidence:** - Document any conversations or communications that occurred between the creditor and your landlord. Here I can say is that the landlord came to me saying that the creditor of my father went to the home owners, contacted them of estate here where I live with my parents, and he asked or pressured them to give out my details, rather the details of my landlord, contact details, and he called the landlord of mine and told him of that criminals and bad people we are, and then the landlord came to me to say he received a call from my father`s past landlord and thus creditor. So the only record of this is since at times I felt my own landlord is ignoring things that arent right with the dwelling, things needing repairs, I brought it up saying that he told you as my landlord so many things that you probably think nothing of now. He vaguely touched on it, but never admits in whatsapp he has been contacted by the creditor? As said, there is some vague indication in whatsapp. So what do I do here? Should I ask/confront him again via whatsapp how he was contacted and what the date was more or less. I have idea more or less when it was.
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the ongoing difficulties you're facing. Here's how you can address your situation:
Steps to Handle the Situation:
*. **Document All Communications**:
- **WhatsApp Messages**: Save all chats and any vague indications that your landlord might have been contacted by the creditor.
- **Conversations**: Write down any conversations you remember having with your landlord about the creditor's contact.
*. **Confront Your Landlord**:
- **WhatsApp Message**: Politely ask your landlord to confirm the details of the creditor's contact. You can say something like:
```
Hello [Landlord's Name],
I hope you're well. I wanted to clarify something regarding a past conversation. Could you please confirm if and when you were contacted by my father's creditor? This will help me address some ongoing issues. Thank you.
```

*. **Consult a Lawyer**:
- **Legal Advice**: Given the complexity, it's best to consult a lawyer to understand if discussing your matters with your landlord constitutes a breach of privacy or defamation. They can guide you on the legal implications and next steps.
Key Points to Consider:
- **Evidence Collection**: Continue collecting any evidence that
Given what my friend did, lying about first apparently owning the place, next moment also saying not knowing the guy, moving out secretly over night, then moving into another unit closebly, again confronting him, then said all of the sudden no, never owned the place, he had to get someone in his place, lease was expiring in a month or two, wanted a more suitable place, but then when I asked him who the landlord was, he said his wife would know, but then anyway gave us a property company`s name, and then when we, my father confronted the wife, she gave a name of a total different property agency, and also a name and number on paper of the supposed landlord, phoning it sounded ALOT like the neighbor next door. I anyways raised my concerns about phone interception, privacy violation claims and harassment, and he then said I should phone the agent, which does not by a long shot sound like the same agent of back then. So I was set up. What should I do here. Surely there is a penalty against this friend, who moved out, to make space for this guy to harass us!? What to do please? What should I do?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about the distressing situation you're facing. Here are some steps you can consider to address the various issues:
Steps to Address the Situation:
*. **Legal Advice:**
- **Consult a Lawyer:** Seek immediate legal advice to understand your rights and options. A lawyer can help you navigate through the various legal challenges, including privacy violations and harassment.
*. **Document Everything:**
- **Incidents:** Keep detailed records of all incidents involving the friend, the supposed landlord, and the neighbor.
- **Communication:** Save all communications, including emails, texts, and any written notes.
*. **File a Police Report:**
- **Harassment and Privacy Violations:** Report the harassment and privacy violations to the local police. Provide all documented evidence to support your claims.
- **Potential Fraud:** Mention any suspected fraud, such as false information provided about the landlord and property.
*. **Protection Orders:**
- **Against Harassment:** Consider applying for a protection order against the neighbor and anyone else involved in the harassment.
- **Steps to File:**
- **Visit Local Court:** Go to the Somerset West Magistrate's Court.
- **Complete Forms:** Fill out the necessary
Okay so since this is a ongoing pattern now for the last 4 years where people are trying these things against us, how is it legal, and why does this keep happening?
Hello ****,
I’m sorry to hear about the ongoing difficulties you and your family are facing. Here are some general insights and steps you can take to address the situation:
Key Insights:
*. **Harassment and Legal Boundaries:**
- Harassment, intimidation, and privacy violations are generally illegal. You have the right to seek legal protection and recourse.
- Consulting a lawyer can help you understand the specific laws and protections available in your jurisdiction.
*. **Pattern of Behavior:**
- Document any patterns of behavior that suggest harassment or intimidation. This can be used as evidence in legal proceedings.
*. **Legal Recourse:**
- Legal recourse can include protection orders, filing police reports for harassment and fraud, and consulting a lawyer to navigate complex legal issues.
Steps to Address Your Situation:
*. **Consult a Lawyer:**
- Seek legal advice to understand your rights and options. A lawyer can help you with:
- Filing for protection orders.
- Responding to any legal claims, such as liquidation attempts.
- Drafting formal agreements to protect your business interests.
*. **Document Everything:**
- Keep detailed records of all incidents, communications, and any evidence of harassment or fraud. This
- Harassment, intimidation, and privacy violations are generally illegal. You have the right to seek legal protection and recourse. What is meant here by generally illegal?
Hello ****,
When we say that "harassment, intimidation, and privacy violations are generally illegal," it means that, in most jurisdictions, including South Africa and North Holland, these actions are prohibited by law and can lead to legal consequences. However, the specifics can vary depending on local laws and circumstances.
Key Points:
- **Harassment:** Persistent and unwanted behavior that causes distress or fear. This is illegal and can be grounds for a protection order.
- **Intimidation:** Actions intended to frighten or coerce someone into doing or refraining from doing something. This is also generally prohibited.
- **Privacy Violations:** Unauthorized intrusion into someone's personal life or information. This is illegal and can be actionable under privacy laws.
Steps You Can Take:
*. **Consult a Lawyer:** To confirm how these laws apply to your specific situation and get personalized legal advice.
*. **Document Incidents:** Keep detailed records of all instances of harassment, intimidation, and privacy violations.
*. **File a Police Report:** Report these actions to the local authorities to initiate legal action.
Would you like more detailed information on how to proceed with any of these steps?
Should I go to the wife`s workplace`s head office and report her to her employers, her actions, and also that of my friend`s actions to his employers with the information I have in my possession?
Hello ****,
I'm sorry to hear about your situation. Before taking any action like reporting to employers, it’s important to consider the following:
Key Considerations:
*. **Legal Advice:**
- **Consult a Lawyer:** Seek legal advice to understand the potential legal implications of reporting someone to their employer. A lawyer can guide you on the best course of action and help you avoid any potential defamation claims.
*. **Evidence Collection:**
- **Document Everything:** Ensure you have detailed and clear evidence of the actions and behaviors you are reporting. This includes dates, times, and any relevant communications.
*. **Impact Assessment:**
- **Evaluate Consequences:** Consider the potential impact on your relationship with these individuals and whether this action might escalate the situation.
Steps to Take:
*. **Consult a Lawyer:**
- Get personalized legal advice to understand your rights and options.
*. **Document Incidents:**
- Keep detailed records of all relevant incidents and communications.
*. **Formal Complaint:**
- If advised by your lawyer, you can consider filing a formal complaint with the employers, providing all documented evidence.
Would you like assistance in finding a local lawyer in Somerset West to help you with this matter?