Dispute Creditors Debt Claim

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To dispute a creditors claim involving your fathers debt and your business, gather evidence proving the companys ownership of assets and your lack of liability. File a formal response to the notice of motion, clearly stating your position and providing documentation. Consult a legal expert for guidance. If harassment continues, consider obtaining a protection order. Legal aid services in South Africa can offer pro bono assistance if you qualify.

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evidence are things like screenshots of cell id`s, ssl errors indicating mitm attempts, tv hacking etc. It was the same at the previous address. But why should I attend the court even though I now own the company, the company owes him nothing, company did not sign anywhere, there`s no link, and further to this I myself have not acknowledged or signed for any debt. Why should I attend the hearings, even though this company is the second respondent.
Thank you for providing detailed information. Here are some important points to consider regarding why you should attend the court hearings:
*. **Legal Obligation**: If the court has summoned you, it is legally required to attend. Not attending can result in a default judgment against you or your company.
*. **Representation**: Even if you believe the company owes nothing, attending allows you to present your case and clarify any misunderstandings.
*. **Evidence Presentation**: Your presence is crucial to present evidence and defend against any false claims.
To better assist you, could you please provide more details on the specific claims made by the creditor against your company?
He said my father used me taking over the company as a means to finance his lifestyle and defraud him and everyone who he owes money. He works as consultant for me, supervising, and dont have the same role in the company any more. He is retired as ceo, and has no shares in the company.
Thank you for the detailed information. To provide better guidance, could you clarify:
- Has the creditor provided any specific documentation or evidence to support his claims against you or your company?
- What was the outcome of the previous liquidation attempt?
Not that I could see in the notice of motion, in his affidavit, he just basically twists what was said back in a earlier affidavit. He claims I have said and admitted things I have no recollection of.
Thank you for providing all the details. Here are some general steps you can consider:
*. **Gather Evidence**: Collect all relevant documents, emails, screenshots, and any other evidence that supports your case and disproves the creditor's claims.
*. **Consult a Legal Expert**: Given the complexity of your situation, it is crucial to consult with a legal expert who can review the affidavits and help you prepare your defense.
*. **Document Everything**: Keep a detailed record of all interactions with the creditor, landlord, and neighbor.
*. **Attend Hearings**: It is essential to attend all court hearings to present your side and avoid a default judgment.
To assist further, could you provide any specific documentation or evidence that the creditor has submitted to support his claims?
Yes but what does he possibly want from me? Can I go to court and see a judge about this prior to any date, I dont want to be involved in this since from my side I have done nothing wrong, I am just continuing business since I could not find a job for some time, and my father was worried he might become ill or die, and then we, me and my father, will be left with nothing. He is * now.
Thank you for sharing the detailed context of your situation. I understand your concern and reluctance to be involved in this matter. Here are some general steps and information that might help:
*. **Early Court Hearing**: In Luxembourg, you can request an urgent or interim hearing (référé) to address immediate concerns. This can be done if there is a pressing need to resolve an issue before the main court date.
*. **Legal Representation**: Consulting with a legal expert can help you navigate the complexities of your case, especially in reviewing and potentially contesting the creditor's claims.
*. **Evidence Documentation**: Continue to gather and organize all evidence such as screenshots, emails, and logs of anomalies to support your defense.
Nearest Court Information:

Tribunal d'arrondissement de Luxembourg


Phone: +* *-*
Address: Cité judiciaire, Bâtiment CR, Plateau du St. Esprit, L-* Luxembourg
Website: justice.public.lu
Would you like to know more about the process of requesting an interim hearing?
This not where I stay, I stay in South Africa, in a town called Somerset West. So given the case is for the low and high court, which court can I go to to make my case? I want to speak with a judge in private, I dont want to see this creditor. He has made my life hell so far.
Thank you for the detailed information. Given that you are located in Somerset West, South Africa, and the case involves both low and high courts, here are some general steps to consider:
*. **Regional Magistrate's Court**: For less complex matters, you may approach the Somerset West Magistrate's Court.
*. **High Court**: For more complex matters or appeals, you would approach the Western Cape High Court in Cape Town.
If you wish to speak with a judge in private, you can request an urgent or interim hearing. However, this typically requires presenting a compelling reason for the request.
~Court Information for Somerset West
Somerset West Magistrate's Court
- **Phone**: +* * * *
- **Address**: The Circle, Main Rd, Somerset West, *, South Africa
Western Cape High Court
- **Phone**: +* * * *
- **Address**: * Keerom St, Cape Town City Centre, Cape Town, *, South Africa
Would you like more details on how to request an urgent hearing in these courts?
Yes, please. But as said, I want to speak in private capacity, and I want to take my father along. We dont want him with us.
Thank you for the additional information. Here’s what you can do to request an urgent or interim hearing in a private capacity:
*. **Draft an Application**: Prepare a written application stating your reasons for requesting an urgent hearing. Highlight any immediate concerns and the need for privacy.
*. **Contact Court**: Reach out to the Somerset West Magistrate's Court or Western Cape High Court to understand their specific procedures for urgent hearings.
*. **Legal Representation**: It’s advisable to consult with a legal expert who can help you draft the application and navigate the process.
Court Information for Somerset West
**Somerset West Magistrate's Court**
- **Phone**: +* * * *
- **Address**: The Circle, Main Rd, Somerset West, *, South Africa
**Western Cape High Court**
- **Phone**: +* * * *
- **Address**: * Keerom St, Cape Town City Centre, Cape Town, *, South Africa
Would you like assistance in finding a legal expert for this process?
So we can insist that we dont want him present?
In most legal systems, including South Africa, you generally cannot insist that the other party be excluded from the hearing as they have a right to present their side. However, you can request an interim hearing to address urgent issues and may ask the court for specific measures to ensure you feel safe.
Steps to Consider:
*. **Draft an Application**: Clearly state your reasons for requesting an urgent hearing and any specific measures you are seeking.
*. **Request Measures**: In your application, request the court to consider measures like separate waiting areas or virtual attendance.
*. **Legal Advice**: Consult a legal expert for help with your application and to explore other protective measures.
Would you like assistance in finding a legal expert for this process?
Given my company is a going concern, and that we survive and not thrive, can I get a probono help on this case?
I understand your concerns. In Luxembourg, there are organizations and law firms that provide pro bono legal assistance. Here are some steps you can take:
*. **Contact the Luxembourg Bar Association**: They can provide information on lawyers offering pro bono services.
*. **Reach out to Local NGOs**: Some non-governmental organizations provide legal aid for business-related issues.
*. **Legal Clinics**: Universities often have legal clinics where law students provide free legal advice under supervision.
Would you like assistance in finding specific organizations or contact information?
Again I am in South Africa. Just because I have a business, for me its unaffordable to obtain a advocate to defend this case. What can I do, since its really unaffordable, this creditor has drained us with these cases alot in the past.
Thank you for clarifying your location. In South Africa, you have several options for obtaining pro bono legal assistance:
*. **Legal Aid South Africa**: Provides free legal services to those who cannot afford a lawyer.
- **Phone**: * * *
- **Website**: www.legal-aid.co.za
*. **Pro Bono.Org**: Connects individuals with pro bono attorneys.
- **Phone**: +* * * *
- **Website**: www.probono.org.za
*. **Law Clinics**: Universities often offer legal clinics where law students, supervised by qualified attorneys, provide free legal advice.
Would you like more information on contacting these organizations?
Can my bookkeeper draft a financial summary or myself, of my financials, to see what I should qualify for free legal assistance, given I really canno afford this?
Yes, you or your bookkeeper can draft a financial summary. Here are the general steps:
*. **Income Documentation**: Include all sources of income.
*. **Expenses Breakdown**: List all monthly and annual expenses.
*. **Assets and Liabilities**: Provide a snapshot of your assets and any debts.
Contact Legal Aid South Africa for Assistance:
- **Phone**: * * *
- **Website**: www.legal-aid.co.za
Would you like more detailed guidance on the financial summary?
hello, can you please provide me all we have spoken about again?
Hello! It seems you would like a summary or more details about a previous conversation. Unfortunately, I don't have access to past conversations. However, I'm here to help you with any new legal questions you might have. Could you please provide some details about your legal issue and your location?
Okay I stay in Somerset West, South Africa. I have received notice of motion, my father`s creditor has involved me in this, and I took over my father`s business in *. He claims I am now also involved in this debt, I did not sign for anything anywhere. In a past liquidation attempt, we had to reply with our affidavit, and he is twisting those past wording now into something else, saying I said things I cannot remember saying. He has harassed me at my landlord, telling our business to my landlord. Then he also made a small claims claim against both me and my father, since he was my father`s landlord, and my father has the debt with him, he now claims I am also owing him money. Furthermore, given what I have seen on a technological side, and with phones, a new neighbor that moved in here, had him warned with police, it appears he was planted he to spy and harass us. This new application, my father is the first respondent, and me the company I now own, the second respondent, ie he involves me now also in the claim, and I want to dispute this, since this is not my debt. I want to approach the court, he made it for both low and high court, and I want to present my case beforehand to a judge, as this is not my debt. What can I do, I stay in Somerset West South Africa.
Hi there! It sounds like you're facing a complex legal issue. Here are some general steps you can take:
- **Respond to the Notice of Motion:** File a formal response (notice of opposition and answering affidavit) stating that you are not liable for your father's debt.
- **Gather Evidence:** Collect all documents that show you did not sign any agreement related to the debt.
- **Seek Legal Assistance:** Consult with a legal professional who specializes in business or debt disputes.
- **Address Harassment:** If harassment continues, you may consider obtaining a protection order.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
Okay so if I can prove, and also since he lost the case with previous liquidation attempt, that not me nor the company owes him money, can this case be dismissed, especially against me and the company?
Hi there! It sounds like you have a strong basis for disputing the claim. If you can prove that neither you nor your company owe the debt, you can request dismissal of the case. Here are some steps you can follow:
- **File a Response:** Submit a notice of opposition and an answering affidavit to the court, clearly stating your position.
- **Present Evidence:** Provide all relevant documents proving you did not assume your father's debt.
- **Legal Consultation:** Seek advice from a legal professional specializing in debt disputes.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
But why did he claim that the company owed him money? My father owned the company from * to *, and this case against my father started in *. So I took over the company in *. Why is he making this claims? In his newest application he is saying/inferring almost my father is still controlling/owning the company. My father acts as a consultant for me, and trains me. I certainly cannot with my very experience in the type of business have trusted anyone off the street? How can it be illegal that my father helps me out? My father has no shares in the company, surely he can given his age also start to retire, since he is now *. I also suffered to find work for a large time of my life.
It sounds like a stressful situation. To clarify, let's focus on some key points:
*. **Respond to Claims:** Ensure your response to the notice of motion clearly states that neither you nor your company owe the debt.
*. **Consult a Legal Professional:** Given the complexity, consulting a lawyer specializing in debt disputes is crucial.
*. **Evidence:** Gather evidence proving your father no longer owns the company and his role is purely advisory without financial obligations.
Would you need information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
So he may not do any supervisory, help me out in that regard?
Hi there! I understand your concern. Here are some points to consider regarding your father's role in the company:
- **Advisory Role:** Your father can act as a consultant or advisor without owning shares or having financial obligations in the company.
- **Document Roles Clearly:** Ensure you have documentation that clarifies his role as a consultant to avoid any confusion.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
What do you mean with financial obligations, my father?
Hi there! It seems like you want to understand what "financial obligations" means in the context of your father's involvement with the company.
- **Financial Obligations:** This refers to any debts or financial responsibilities your father might have. If he has no financial ties or responsibilities in the company, he shouldn’t be liable for its debts.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
Well he signed for vehicles which I did not. That is the only asset along with some tools that we use in the building business. So what does this mean now, the obligations are mine now, or does he still need from his side to make sure those are paid monthly?
Hi there! Let's break this down:
- **Existing Debt:** If your father signed for the vehicles, he is primarily responsible for these obligations unless there was a formal transfer of debt to you or the company.
- **Your Responsibility:** If there has been no transfer or agreement stating that you or the company take on these debts, your father remains responsible for ensuring payments are made.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
So the banks still owns these vehicles, and I suspect the creditor of my father wants to get his hands on these. But they are owned by the company, and not my father.
Hi there! To clarify your situation, here are some key points:
- **Ownership and Debt:** If the vehicles are owned by the company and not your father personally, the creditor cannot claim them against your father's personal debt.
- **Formal Response:** Ensure that your response to the notice of motion includes this clarification.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a legal professional to affirm your company's ownership of the vehicles and protect your interests.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
So how does this change anything for me regarding my response to the notice of motion and affidavit, since I think he wants to build some case and wants to convince the court for some judgement, that the vehicles or something be surrendered.
Hi there! To strengthen your response to the notice of motion and affidavit, consider the following steps:
- **Clarify Ownership:** Clearly state that the vehicles are owned by the company, not your father.
- **Provide Evidence:** Include documentation that proves the company's ownership of the vehicles.
- **Legal Consultation:** Seek advice from a legal professional to ensure your affidavit is robust.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
I want to setup video consultations online, and want to ask a fee for this. This is for people that have no idea how to plan there coming building project and would like to have some advice also maybe given they want to do some things on their own, and cannot afford a builder currently. Can I? And how do I set this up?
Hi there! Setting up video consultations and charging a fee for your services is generally possible. Here are some steps to help you get started:
- **Register Your Business:** Ensure your business is legally registered in South Africa.
- **Compliance:** Comply with South African tax regulations and obtain any necessary permits.
- **Platform:** Choose a reliable video conferencing platform.
- **Payment System:** Integrate a secure payment gateway for fee collection.
Would you like information on any specific aspect of setting up your service?
Yes the payment system. As much details here possible please.
Hi there! Setting up a payment system for your online consultations involves a few steps. Here’s what you need to do:
- **Choose a Payment Gateway:** Popular options in South Africa include PayFast, PayGate, and Peach Payments.
- **Set Up an Account:** Register and set up your account with the chosen payment gateway.
- **Integrate with Your Platform:** Ensure the gateway is integrated with your video conferencing platform or website for seamless transactions.
- **Compliance:** Make sure you comply with South African tax regulations and keep records of all transactions for tax purposes.
Would you like more detailed information on any specific payment gateway?
Yes, Peach Payments. I have paid people before via them and find them quite good.
Hi there! Setting up a payment system with Peach Payments is a great choice. Here's a concise guide to get you started:
- **Register an Account:** Sign up on the Peach Payments website.
- **Documentation:** Provide required documents (business registration, ID, bank account details).
- **Integration:** Follow the integration guides to connect Peach Payments with your website or video platform.
- **Compliance:** Ensure adherence to tax regulations and record-keeping.
Would you like more detailed steps on any part of this process?
The integration part
Hi there! Integrating Peach Payments with your platform involves several steps. Here's a brief guide:
- **API Documentation:** Access Peach Payments' API documentation on their website.
- **Technical Setup:** Use the provided code samples and libraries to integrate the payment gateway with your website or video platform.
- **Testing:** Perform test transactions to ensure everything works correctly.
- **Go Live:** Once testing is successful, switch to live mode.
Would you like more detailed information on any specific step?
If I provide any intellectual property or rather some novel idea, onto a ai chat platform, are those chats viewed by a person, ie can my idea potentially be stolen?
Hi there! It's understandable to be concerned about the privacy of your intellectual property. Here are some general points to consider:
- **Data Privacy:** Most AI chat platforms claim they don’t store or share personal data, but it's always good to check their privacy policy.
- **Confidentiality:** Avoid sharing sensitive information or novel ideas on public or unsecured platforms.
- **Legal Protection:** Consider protecting your ideas with intellectual property rights, such as patents or copyrights.
Would you like more information on intellectual property protection in South Africa?
If I cannot afford any taking out a patent on my idea, protecting my idea, what can I do in order to protect it otherwise/further?
Hi there! If you cannot afford to take out a patent on your idea, here are some alternative steps to protect it:
- **Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs):** Use NDAs when discussing your idea with others.
- **Document Everything:** Keep detailed records and date all your work.
- **Copyright:** If applicable, you might be able to copyright some elements.
- **Trade Secrets:** Maintain the confidentiality of your idea as a trade secret.
Would you like more information on any of these methods?
My father`s creditor once had a discussion inside our previous house where we lived and where he was thus the landlord. My father was the tenant and owed him the arrears which he now has become so vindictive in nature about. He placed my father onto a TPN profile, causing my father and us, not to find a house, and given it was also Covid and South Africa where people from northern parts of the country like migrated in the masses down to our area. This caused the property market here to become overwhelmed, and since like *% of all applications given tenancy are controlled by background checks, my father failed each time and us in the process. Given the large sum then caused, what can we do, arguments in a affidavit given this. How were we suppose to move out to lessen any debt if this caused us not to move. We are now obviously in another residence.
Hi there! It sounds like a challenging situation. To support your case in an affidavit, consider the following points:
- **Impact of COVID-*:** Highlight how the pandemic affected the property market and your ability to find alternative housing.
- **TPN Profile:** Explain how the TPN listing directly impacted your ability to secure a new rental.
- **Mitigation Efforts:** Detail any efforts you made to resolve the debt or find housing despite the challenges.
- **Current Residence:** Mention that you have since found another residence, which shows your willingness to resolve the issue.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
One last thing still given this matter with my father`s previous landlord. Given his nature and threats, I did record him at times. This was especially also where he and his attorney was present in the house and verbally attacked and intimidated my father into signing another debt acknowledgement, much higher amount, since they werent happy with the previous amount my father offered and signed for, said they cannot go on such way, he as creditor will have to wait too long for his money. But all this, and placing us onto TPN(blacklisting my father) just made any attempts to find another house avoiding eviction much harder. It had increased the rent since he could not afford their demands. Was it legal for them to force him into a second debt acknowledgement for a higher amount especially in a time when he was unsure of future projects in the pipeline as well as this creditor, landlord of my father, his attorney present said he will want to verify phoning up each client. We werent comfortable with it since we feared he ask the potential clients sensitive questions, or harm our reputation in some way. Can I use the wording I recorded also of how he must have us regularly watched, and how the debt is not mine, as the son, in court? Otherwise, given also what I said here, what they did, was it legal in any way?
Hi there! I understand your concerns. Here are some points to consider:
- **Recording Use:** Check South African laws on recording conversations. Generally, recordings can be used in court if at least one party consents.
- **Coercion:** If your father was coerced into signing the second debt acknowledgment, this could be legally challenged.
- **TPN Listing:** Highlight how the blacklisting has unfairly impacted your ability to secure housing.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
But still, was it also legal for him to request phoning up people we do business with, or going to them, asking them about us?
Hi there! I understand your concern. Here are some points to consider:
- **Privacy and Harassment:** Contacting your business partners could be seen as harassment or an invasion of privacy.
- **Defamation:** If the creditor makes false statements that harm your reputation, it could be considered defamation.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a legal professional to explore your options.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
What is coercion?
Hi there! Coercion involves forcing someone to act against their will through threats, intimidation, or pressure. Here are some key points:
- **Definition:** Using force or threats to compel someone to act.
- **Legal Implications:** Coerced agreements or actions are often considered invalid in court.
- **Examples:** Threatening harm to obtain consent.
Would you like more information on any specific aspect of coercion?
So if I present this recording, of how they pressured him, coercion as you mentioned it, the court will dismiss that part?
Hi there! Presenting a recording to demonstrate coercion could be valuable. Here are some points to consider:
- **Admissibility:** Ensure the recording complies with South African laws (one-party consent is generally required).
- **Evidence of Coercion:** Clearly show how threats or pressure were used.
- **Legal Advice:** Consult a lawyer to effectively present this evidence.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
Sorry my english is poor. Meaning so if they pressured him into signing another debt acknowledgement, given how they would evict us etc if not doing so, it was then unlawful. Do I have this correct? And how can we put this into our reaction, he had made another court application as you may know(notice of motion) where he alleges the company owes him money, and how my father used me and the vehicle to defraud him, how do we place this coercion part into a affidavit/arguments, to defend against some of his claims.
Hi there! I understand your situation. Here's how to address it:
- **Coercion in Affidavit:** Clearly state how your father was pressured into signing the second debt acknowledgment.
- **Evidence:** Include the recording as evidence of coercion.
- **Arguments:** Emphasize that threats of eviction were used to force the agreement, making it unlawful.
Would you like guidance on the format of an affidavit or more details on legal aid services in Somerset West?
So given my father did not comply in timely fashion and paying this high amount which was highly unaffordable, we started to seek a house, finding out through a estate agent that my father was placed onto the credit bureau where estate agents go to see who is bad payers. This caused my father not to find a suitable home in time, and causing in the process the arrears to run up heavily, into substantial unaffordable arrears. Any offers my father tried to make given also his application previously to declare my father bankrupt, all offers my father made, the creditor declined. Is it legal also for him to do that?
Hi there! I understand your concerns. Here are some points to consider:
- **Credit Bureau Listing:** Listing someone on a credit bureau for non-payment is generally legal, but it must be done correctly and fairly.
- **Bankruptcy Proceedings:** Creditors can decline offers during bankruptcy, but it should be done in good faith.
- **Affidavit:** Clearly state how the credit listing and declined offers made it impossible to secure housing and increased arrears.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
If I document, provide sources of how expensive things have become nowadays, since he makes remarks about our expenditures given grocery shopping, and how we had to especially buy take away food at times mostly, since he refused to replace/or have the geyser of the kitchen area repaired, this caused hardships for my mom cleaning dishes etc. He did this, all these kinds of things, out of punishment for the outstanding arrears when we lived there still. So can I defend also thus with economic climate how things changed after Covid, the economic impact, how any large amount especially now cannot be afforded?
Hi there! I understand your situation and the difficulties you've faced. Here are some ways to address these points in your affidavit:
- **Economic Impact:** Clearly detail how the COVID-* pandemic has affected your finances.
- **Increased Costs:** Provide evidence of increased costs for groceries and other essentials.
- **Unrepaired Geyser:** Explain how the landlord's refusal to repair the geyser caused additional hardships.
- **Punitive Actions:** Describe the landlord's actions as punitive measures for the outstanding arrears.
Would you like guidance on how to format these arguments in your affidavit?
What is punitive actions?
Hi there! Punitive actions are measures taken to punish someone rather than to address or resolve an issue. Here are some key points:
- **Definition:** Actions intended to punish rather than to correct or address a problem.
- **Examples:** Harsh penalties, threats, or other disproportionate measures.
- **Legal Context:** Courts may view punitive actions negatively, especially if they are unfair or excessive.
Would you like more information on how to include this in your affidavit?
So this creditor according to you, given what he has already done, having my father every week basically in court since he involved his attorney, forcing my father into unaffordable debt acknowledgement, the amounts thus needed be paid back monthly, how he placed us on the tpn(bureau) without sending us a notice of his intentions, evicting us, not caring if we did then in fact find another home seeing how the market was flooded and the tpn listing, and then low and behold while I then took over my father`s business, also tried to liquidate the company, making allegations like defrauding him, while the company or I did not sign for any debt given the tenancy etc, or any obligations towards him, also came back and threatened he will try again to liquidate the company, but then immediately after applied to declare my father bankrupt, failed with that, and then came back recently with another application, notice of motion, where he now has my father and my company as first and second respondents, again making claims of my father not being retired, still has a role in the company, my father trains me, and given harassment all round seen so far, I trust him to rather assist me still in business as consultant, but he sees this as a form of defrauding him. What is he after, and what will he still do?
Hi there! It sounds like you're dealing with a very complex and stressful situation. Based on what you've described, here are some general points to consider:
- **Creditor's Motive:** The creditor seems to be aggressively pursuing repayment, possibly to recover as much money as possible from your father and your company.
- **Harassment and Coercion:** The creditor's actions could be seen as harassment and coercion, especially if they are making unfair demands and involving the courts extensively.
- **Company's Liability:** If neither you nor the company signed any agreement for the debt, it is important to clarify this in your legal responses.
- **Consult Legal Help:** Given the complexity, it's crucial to consult with a legal professional specializing in debt disputes and business law.
Would you like guidance on how to structure your affidavit or more information on legal aid services in Somerset West?
But what kind of claim or application can he still bring, his current arguments he is pushing claims defraudment of him, seeing how my father helps me out and his using me as a vehicle to finance my father`s lifestyle. I always said I will look after my parents.
Hi there! Given the creditor's aggressive approach, here are some types of claims or applications he might still bring:
- **Fraud Claims:** Alleging that you and your father are defrauding him by hiding assets or misrepresenting financial situations.
- **Liquidation Applications:** Trying to liquidate the company based on alleged unpaid debts.
- **Debt Recovery Actions:** Pursuing further legal actions to recover the claimed debt.
To defend against these, consider the following steps:
- **Detailed Affidavit:** Clearly outline your father's advisory role and your independent management of the company.
- **Evidence:** Gather documents proving your father does not financially control the company.
- **Legal Consultation:** Seek advice from a legal professional specializing in business or debt law.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
- **Evidence:** Gather documents proving your father does not financially control the company. I have a idea of this but please clarify further more detailed.
Hi there! To gather documents proving your father does not financially control the company, consider the following steps:
- **Shareholder Agreement:** Provide documents showing the current shareholders and their respective ownership percentages.
- **Corporate Minutes:** Include minutes from board meetings that outline decision-making processes and your father’s advisory role.
- **Consultancy Agreement:** If applicable, present a formal agreement detailing your father's role as a consultant without financial obligations.
- **Financial Statements:** Share recent financial statements showing transactions and financial control by you or other authorized personnel.
Would you like guidance on how to format these documents or more information on legal aid services in Somerset West?
Financial statements?
Financial Statements Explained
Financial statements are official records that detail the financial activities and position of a business. They are crucial in demonstrating who controls the finances of a company. Here's how they can help in your situation:
- **Balance Sheet:** Provides a snapshot of the company’s assets, liabilities, and shareholders' equity. It can show that your father is not listed as an owner or principal.
- **Income Statement:** Shows the company’s revenues, expenses, and profits over a specific period. It can demonstrate financial decisions made without your father's involvement.
- **Cash Flow Statement:** Details the inflows and outflows of cash, helping to show who manages the company’s finances.
- **Notes to Financial Statements:** These provide additional context, such as significant accounting policies and details about certain accounts, which can clarify your father's advisory role.
Would you like more detailed steps on how to prepare and present these financial statements?
I dont do the books myself, but the bookkeeper in the past made errors, seeing one income, paid from one bank account to the other, as a double? What was he trying to do, and he has also placed me onto blacklisting for my father`s past debt when he was still in the company. We had two accounts, now there is one, since my father is not active anymore, to which one account belongs. But my father used to pay money from his bank account also over to mine. Was that right, surely nothing illegal? I think this is what the bookkeeper picked up on, and seeing double payments. I think this is also what the creditor saw, and thought the company was making alot of money.
Hi there! It sounds like the bookkeeper's errors may have created confusion. Here are some key points to consider:
- **Bookkeeper Errors:** Misclassifying inter-account transfers as income can inflate financial statements inaccurately.
- **Inter-Account Transfers:** Moving money between company and personal accounts is not illegal but should be clearly documented to avoid misunderstandings.
- **Credit Report:** If you've been blacklisted due to these errors, you should challenge this with the credit bureau.
Would you like guidance on how to correct these bookkeeping errors or more information on legal aid services in Somerset West?
My father`s attorney, who helped him with the eviction stage, there was also a outstanding amount still, sigh, but my father made arrangements to pay it monthly at a agreed amount. But before the appointment even, my father and I had to sign a form which I did not know would force me as a co-payer of the account, there was no place for me to sign, and I basically had no time to see what I was signing for, the secretary of his rushed me, I was unemployed such time, he had me sign below my fathers signature, space. Was this right? And also, the amount seems not to come down basically much, and he even also blacklisted me. Was this right? And is he and the bookkeeper involved setting me up, did the creditor of my father intimidate them to do this to us?
Hi there! Your situation is quite complex. Here are some key points to consider:
- **Signing Under Duress:** If you were rushed and unaware of what you were signing, this could be considered signing under duress, which may invalidate the agreement.
- **Co-Payer Liability:** If you did not knowingly agree to be a co-payer, you might challenge this in court.
- **Blacklisting:** Being blacklisted without proper cause can be contested through legal channels.
Steps to Take:
*. **Consult a Lawyer:** Seek immediate legal advice to address the validity of your signature and the blacklisting.
*. **Gather Evidence:** Collect any documents or communications proving you were rushed and unaware of the agreement's terms.
*. **File a Dispute:** You can dispute the blacklisting with the credit bureau and relevant financial institutions.
Would you like information on the nearest court or legal aid services in Somerset West?
I used to ask the bookkeeper to set up for me getting a pay slip, other than having to draw funds for lifestyle out of the business. Meaning I have to live out of the account of the business. He always have some excuse. What would be the cause for him to act this way? I need to have a salary pay slip. This stifles me on many levels for things I need to do.
Hi there! I understand your concern about not receiving a pay slip. Here are some general reasons why your bookkeeper might be acting this way and steps you can take:
- **Lack of Proper Setup:** The bookkeeper might not have properly set up the payroll system.
- **Financial Issues:** There might be financial constraints or complexities that are not being communicated to you.
- **Negligence or Miscommunication:** The bookkeeper might be negligent or there could be a miscommunication.
Steps to Take:
*. **Formal Request:** Submit a formal written request for a pay slip.
*. **Consult a Professional:** Consider consulting with another accountant or bookkeeper for a second opinion.
*. **Review Financials:** Have a detailed review of the business's financials to understand any underlying issues.
Would you like more detailed guidance on any of these steps?
But why can he not do this for me? Is he being malicious?
Hi there! It's difficult to say if your bookkeeper is being malicious without more information. Here are some general reasons for his behavior and steps you can take:
- **Incompetence:** He might lack the skills or knowledge to set up payroll properly.
- **Miscommunication:** There could be a misunderstanding about your needs.
- **Financial Constraints:** There might be financial issues affecting payroll.
Steps to Take:
*. **Formal Inquiry:** Ask the bookkeeper directly for an explanation.
*. **Second Opinion:** Consult another accountant to review your financials and set up payroll.
*. **Legal Advice:** Seek legal advice if you suspect any wrongdoing.
Would you like more detailed information on finding another accountant or addressing this issue legally?
- **Financial Constraints:** There might be financial issues affecting payroll. What is meant here?
Hi there! Financial constraints affecting payroll could mean several things:
- **Insufficient Funds:** The business might lack the necessary funds to pay salaries regularly.
- **Cash Flow Issues:** There could be delays in receiving payments from clients, impacting payroll.
- **Budget Limitations:** The business might have budgetary restrictions limiting payroll expenses.
Would you like more detailed information on how to address financial constraints affecting payroll?
So given this is a construction business. I also desire like any other person to receive my payment/salary on time each month. What can I do? When you asked/proposed this aspect, the following relates to my question and challenges : Would you like more detailed information on how to address financial constraints affecting payroll
Hi there! I understand your concern about receiving timely payment. Here are some general steps you can take to address financial constraints affecting payroll in your construction business:
- **Review Financials:** Conduct a thorough review of the company's financial health to identify cash flow issues.
- **Invoice Management:** Ensure timely invoicing and follow up on late payments from clients.
- **Cost Reduction:** Identify and reduce unnecessary expenses to free up funds for payroll.
- **Payment Plans:** Negotiate payment plans with creditors to manage cash flow better.
- **External Funding:** Consider short-term financing options like business loans or lines of credit.
Would you like more detailed information on any of these steps?
Yes, but remember even though I want to make this business move forward, I cannot do much myself given my father`s attorney and bookkeeper that placed me onto the credit bureau for my father`s debts. So this part, how even? - **External Funding:** Consider short-term financing options like business loans or lines of credit.
Hi there! I understand your challenges. Given your situation, here are some tailored steps to consider for securing external funding despite the credit bureau listing:
- **Alternative Lenders:** Look for lenders who offer loans to individuals with poor credit. Microfinance institutions and peer-to-peer lenders might be options.
- **Credit Repair:** Dispute the blacklisting with the credit bureau, especially if it's based on errors or duress.
- **Collateral:** Use assets as collateral to secure a loan, which might reduce the lender's risk.
- **Business Plan:** Prepare a solid business plan to show potential lenders your strategy for profitability and repayment.
Would you like more detailed information on any specific funding option?
Can my father, whose creditor filed many applications so far, liquidation attempts, bankruptcy application and the recent notice of motion again, can my father apply for debt reconsilidation or debt counselling/debt rescue, even though these cases are hanging and how must he proceed. How are these things done?
Hi there! I understand your situation. Here are some general steps your father can take to apply for debt consolidation or debt counselling in South Africa:
- **Debt Counselling:**
- **Apply:** Contact a registered debt counsellor to apply.
- **Assessment:** The counsellor will assess his financial situation.
- **Debt Review:** If approved, the counsellor will negotiate with creditors to restructure the debts.
- **Debt Consolidation:**
- **Loan Application:** Apply for a debt consolidation loan through a bank or financial institution.
- **Repayment Plan:** Use the loan to pay off existing debts, resulting in one manageable monthly payment.
Would you like information on the nearest debt counselling services in Somerset West?
Okay since he doesnt earn much for what he doing for me as a consultant, I provide him a roof over his head, and some basic salary for his supervisory and thus consultancy roles, I am sure I am allowed to do this? What are the prerequisites for him for debt counselling?
Hi there! You are allowed to provide your father with a roof over his head and a basic salary for his consultancy roles. Here are the prerequisites for him to apply for debt counselling in South Africa:
- **Income Verification:** Proof of his earnings, even if it's a basic salary you provide.
- **Expenditure Details:** A detailed list of his monthly expenses.
- **Debt Information:** Documentation of all his debts, including amounts owed and to whom.
- **ID and Residency Proof:** Valid identification and proof of residency.
Would you like information on the nearest debt counselling services in Somerset West?
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Can you please elaborate on details of these please : - **Income Verification:** Proof of his earnings, even if it's a basic salary you provide. - **Expenditure Details:** A detailed list of his monthly expenses. - **Debt Information:** Documentation of all his debts, including amounts owed and to whom.
Hi there! I understand you need more details on the documentation required for debt counselling. Here’s a concise explanation:
- **Income Verification:**
- **Payslips or Salary Slips:** Provide recent payslips or salary slips from his consultancy work.
- **Bank Statements:** Include bank statements showing regular deposits from your payments.
- **Employment Letter:** A letter from you, as his employer, stating his position and salary.
- **Expenditure Details:**
- **Monthly Bills:** Include utility bills (electricity, water, etc.).
- **Rent or Mortgage Payments:** Document any housing costs.
- **Groceries and Daily Expenses:** Provide receipts or a list of average monthly costs.
- **Medical Expenses:** Include any recurring medical costs.
- **Debt Information:**
- **Debt Statements:** Gather statements for all debts, such as credit cards, personal loans, and any arrears.
- **Creditor Details:** List names and contact information of all creditors.
- **Total Amount Owed:** Provide a summary of the total debt amount, including interest rates and repayment terms.
Would you like more detailed guidance on how to prepare any of these documents?