Nursing Home Discharge Rights

Summary

PACE cannot force you to take your mom back if you cannot provide a safe environment. They should work with you to find a suitable alternative. If your mom refuses nursing home or assisted living, PACE should explore options like adult foster care, group homes, or supportive housing. If PACE brings her back despite your objections, contact them immediately and consider reaching out to Adult Protective Services. Consult an elder law attorney for further guidance.

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No, she goes through the PACE program and currently lives with me but I do NOT want her back here because it's not safe because she keeps falling and i have told my mom and PACE this as well
It sounds like you're in a difficult situation. You may want to consider:
- Discussing with the nursing home about your mom's safety concerns and their recommendations.
- Exploring alternative living arrangements such as assisted living facilities.
- Consulting with an elder law attorney for specific advice.
Would you like help finding a local elder law attorney?
I told PACE and they said they are going to talk with her about assisted living but i know shes going to refuse that but she is NOT welcomed back to my house because it's not safe and it's no one to care for her.
It sounds like a tough situation. Here are a few steps you might consider:
- Communicate with PACE: Clearly inform them about your inability to provide care.
- Consult with an Elder Law Attorney: They can offer advice on legal options for ensuring your mom's safety and care.
Would you like help finding a local elder law attorney?
I spoke with a Elder care lawyer and since she is in her sound of mind they do not have a leg to stand on. But i spoke with PACE and i told them the nurses and social workers i do NOT want her here. Will they still allow her here even though she may want to come back but its not safe?
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You have already taken several important steps, including communicating with PACE and consulting an elder care lawyer. Since your mom is of sound mind, her wishes will be a significant factor.
- Nursing homes and PACE programs cannot force you to take your mom back if you cannot provide a safe environment.
- They may need to work with you to find a suitable alternative.
Would you like more detailed information on your legal options or assistance finding a different type of care for your mom?
Okay, so even if she is in the sound of mind I still do not have to take her back into my house correct?
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Correct, you are not legally obligated to take your mom back into your house if you cannot provide a safe environment for her. Since you have already informed PACE and the nursing home about your concerns, they should work with you to find a suitable alternative living arrangement for her.
Will pace be responsible in finding her a place even though she does not want to be in the nursing home or assisted living?
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PACE (Program of All-Inclusive Care for the Elderly) is designed to help elderly individuals with their healthcare needs. Here are some points to consider:
- PACE should work with you to find a safe and appropriate living arrangement for your mom.
- They can coordinate with social workers and healthcare providers to explore options like in-home care, community-based services, or other suitable living arrangements.
Would you like more detailed information on your legal options regarding this issue?
SHe can't do in home care because i do not want anyone in my home. I have a family. What is community based services?
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Community-based services are designed to provide support and care to individuals outside of institutional settings like nursing homes. In Virginia, these services can include:
- Adult day care
- Meals on wheels
- Transportation services
- Home health aides (provided outside of your home, like at a senior center)
- Respite care
Would you like more detailed information on any of these community-based services?
Will pace make her stay in the nursing home until a suitable living arrangement is made even though she does not want to but she can not come back to my house?
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PACE cannot force your mother to stay in a nursing home against her will if she is of sound mind. However, they are responsible for ensuring she has a safe living arrangement. They should work with you to find a suitable alternative.
Would you like more information on specific community-based services in Virginia?
Where will she go if she refuses to go to the nursing home or assisted living but she can not come here
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It seems like a challenging situation. If your mom refuses nursing home or assisted living and cannot stay with you, PACE should work to find an appropriate living arrangement. Options may include:
- Adult Foster Care: A family setting providing care.
- Group Homes: Smaller community-based living arrangements.
- Supportive Housing: Independent living with support services.
Would you like to explore more about any of these options?
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It sounds like you are dealing with a very challenging situation. Here are some more details on the options mentioned:
- Adult Foster Care: This is where your mom could live in a family setting with caregivers.
- Group Homes: These are smaller, community-based living arrangements that provide support.
- Supportive Housing: These are independent living settings with available support services.
Would you like detailed information on any of these options?
How quickly can she get into these?
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The speed at which your mom can get into alternative living arrangements like adult foster care, group homes, or supportive housing will depend on several factors:
- Availability of spaces in these facilities.
- The assessment and coordination by PACE and social workers.
- Your mom's willingness to move to these options.
Would you like more specific details on how to proceed with these arrangements?
what if shes not willing to move to any of these
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If your mom is not willing to move to any of the suggested alternatives, it can complicate the situation significantly. Here are some steps you may consider:
- Consult with PACE: They must continue working with you to find a safe solution.
- Elder Law Attorney: Seek further legal advice on your options, especially if your mom's refusal creates a safety risk.
Would you like more detailed information on any specific legal options?
will pace still bring her to my house since she lives with me even though i told my mom and PACE she can NOT come back here
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PACE should not bring your mother back to your house if you have clearly informed them that you cannot provide a safe environment. They must find an alternative living arrangement suitable for her needs.
Would you like more information on specific legal options to ensure she is placed in a safe environment?
So pace will not bring my mom back home?
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No, PACE should not bring your mom back to your house if you have clearly communicated that you cannot provide a safe environment for her. They are responsible for finding a suitable alternative living arrangement that meets her needs and ensures her safety.
What if they do bring her back
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If PACE brings your mom back to your house despite your clear communication that it's not safe, you should:
- Immediately contact PACE and reiterate that you cannot provide a safe environment.
- Contact Adult Protective Services in Virginia to report the situation.
Would you like more information on how to proceed with these steps?
What's the likelyhood of pace bringing her back hoime after i told them NO
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If you've explicitly informed PACE that you cannot provide a safe environment, it is unlikely they will bring your mom back to your house. They are responsible for ensuring her safety and must find an appropriate living arrangement.
Would you like more detailed information on how to proceed if PACE does not follow through?