Corporate Veil Protection Tips

Summary

To protect the corporate veil, ensure clear separation of personal and company finances. A volunteer agreement for your father can help maintain this separation. If a creditor is harassing you with baseless claims, consider filing a motion to dismiss. Document all interactions and consult a local lawyer for tailored advice. In civil matters, non-attendance can lead to default judgments, but not typically arrest. Always consult a lawyer for complex legal issues.

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Given corporate veil scenario, if my father retired but still helps me in the business as a technical advisor or consultant then rather teaching me, supervising at times, since he has a form of dementia so I want to keep him busy, is he classified as a worker for me technically, but he stays with me, I provide him lodging and stuff but he gets no income from me, just the benefits that I look after him providing a roof over his head and food. He gets pension monthly from the state, thats his only income. So he transports for me workers to and from the site, and oversees at times for me that the work gets done(ie supervising). He has early dementia. I did it this way since he should not do nothing since it will accelerate his condition as the evidence stands to keep him busy.
It sounds like a challenging situation. Here are some points to consider regarding your father's role:
- Worker Classification: Since he doesn't receive a salary and is not formally employed, he may not technically be classified as a worker.
- Volunteer Status: His contributions could be viewed as voluntary, especially given his condition and lack of formal compensation.
- Documentation: Keep clear records of his role and contributions to avoid confusion.
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And what about a consultant role or is volunteer seen better protecting the veil?
In your situation, having your father as a volunteer might be safer for maintaining the corporate veil since he isn't compensated. However, if you classify him as a consultant, it might imply a formal business relationship, which could complicate things.
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So given my father then volunteers. He has *% shares in the company I have *%. Can you help me formalise a agreement for me that I can use to best describe his position of what he does for me and protects the corporate veil? Some example I can use. Should it be then also on my letterhead of the company?
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Sure, here is a simple volunteer agreement you can use:
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[Your Company Name] Volunteer Agreement
This Volunteer Agreement ("Agreement") is entered into on [Date], by and between [Your Company Name], a [State] corporation ("Company"), and [Father's Name] ("Volunteer").
*. Volunteer Position:
Volunteer will provide assistance as a technical advisor and supervisor for the Company’s projects without receiving any compensation. The Volunteer’s role is to supervise and transport workers to and from the site.
*. No Employment Relationship:
This Agreement does not create an employment relationship between the Company and Volunteer. The Volunteer is not entitled to any benefits or compensation from the Company.
*. Duration and Termination:
This Agreement will continue until terminated by either party. Either party may terminate this Agreement at any time, with or without cause, by providing written notice to the other party.
*. Volunteer Benefits:
Volunteer will receive no compensation but will be provided with lodging and food by the Company.
*. Entire Agreement:
This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties and supersedes all prior agreements and understandings.
*. Governing Law:
This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of [State].
Signed:
_________________________
[Your Name]
[Your Title]
[Your Company Name]
_________________________
[Father's Name]
Volunteer
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It’s a good idea to have this on your company letterhead to formalize it. For more detailed advice, consider consulting a local lawyer.
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Can you please rectify this. He gets the benefits from me in my personal capacity, I provide him with food and roof over his head, not the company. It comes from my drawing as a salary type from company.
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Here's the revised volunteer agreement:
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[Your Company Name] Volunteer Agreement
This Volunteer Agreement ("Agreement") is entered into on [Date], by and between [Your Company Name], a [State] corporation ("Company"), and [Father's Name] ("Volunteer").
*. Volunteer Position:
Volunteer will provide assistance as a technical advisor and supervisor for the Company’s projects without receiving any compensation. The Volunteer’s role is to supervise and transport workers to and from the site.
*. No Employment Relationship:
This Agreement does not create an employment relationship between the Company and Volunteer. The Volunteer is not entitled to any benefits or compensation from the Company.
*. Duration and Termination:
This Agreement will continue until terminated by either party. Either party may terminate this Agreement at any time, with or without cause, by providing written notice to the other party.
*. Volunteer Benefits:
Volunteer will receive no compensation from the Company. Any lodging and food provided to Volunteer will come from [Your Name]'s personal capacity, not from the Company.
*. Entire Agreement:
This Agreement constitutes the entire agreement between the parties and supersedes all prior agreements and understandings.
*. Governing Law:
This Agreement shall be governed by the laws of the State of [State].
Signed:
_________________________
[Your Name]
[Your Title]
[Your Company Name]
_________________________
[Father's Name]
Volunteer
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It’s a good idea to have this on your company letterhead to formalize it. For more detailed advice, consider consulting a local lawyer.
This should protect the corporate veil?
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The revised volunteer agreement should help in maintaining the corporate veil by clearly defining your father's role and ensuring there's no formal employment relationship. However, given the complexity of your situation, consulting with a local lawyer specializing in corporate law would be highly beneficial.
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- Corporate Veil: Typically, courts will only pierce the corporate veil if there's evidence of fraud, undercapitalization, or commingling of assets. What is undercapitalisation?
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Undercapitalization generally means that a corporation does not have enough capital to cover its liabilities and business operations. It's a situation where a company is set up without sufficient funds, making it difficult to sustain its business and meet its debts.
It seems your situation is quite complex. Would you like to connect with local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
So if the company was not getting enough business, this can be the case?
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Not having enough business alone typically doesn't qualify for undercapitalization. Undercapitalization usually refers to the company being set up without enough capital from the start. However, sustained financial difficulties can be scrutinized. Would you like more detailed advice from a local lawyer?
If I have a second company that can pay for the first company`s liabilities? What is liabilities of a company typically? There is only one kind of debt, that is also a asset for the company and that is the vehicles owned by the bank but also the assets of the company that needs to be paid monthly.
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A company's liabilities typically include debts and obligations such as loans, accounts payable, mortgages, and other financial responsibilities. Assets like vehicles owned by the bank can be both an asset and a liability (due to the loan).
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So the bank still owns the vehicles, but its company vehicles. So its seen as a asset and a liability at the same time?
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Yes, the vehicles can be seen as both an asset and a liability. The vehicles are considered assets because they have value and are used for business operations. However, they are also liabilities as the company has an obligation to repay the loan to the bank.
Do you have any other questions about managing your company's liabilities and assets?
We dont commingle funds everything is seperate and nothing was transferred to me. How strong is this case?
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Your case appears strong based on the information provided:
- Clear separation of personal and company funds.
- Proper documentation and volunteer agreement for your father's role.
- Understanding of assets and liabilities.
For a more detailed analysis, consulting a local lawyer would be beneficial. Would you like help connecting with local lawyers for precise advice?
So why is the bar top right being in red stating I have a weak case. The creditor has the case against my father, my father signed for the debt in the first place in personal capacity, not the company.
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It seems like you've taken substantial steps to protect the corporate veil and keep personal and company finances separate. However, the creditor's case against your father in his personal capacity might still involve complex legal nuances.
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Complex legal nuances why? This company is a pty ltd. Not a sole proprietor.
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Since your father signed the debt in his personal capacity, it should not impact the company, provided there’s no commingling of funds and clear documentation. However, given the complexity, consulting a local lawyer specializing in corporate law might be beneficial.
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So why did you say complex nuances then?
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The situation is complex because it involves multiple legal aspects, including the corporate veil, your father's personal liability, and the separation of personal and company finances. Each of these elements can have significant legal implications.
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My father was a employee of the company he used to own. The company pty ltd never signed for the debt, he cannot bring a case against the company. In a previous matter he tried to liquidate the company just when it came under my control. He failed as the high court judge said he as the creditor could not bring such a case.
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Given the situation, it seems like you have taken the right steps to protect the corporate veil and maintain separation between personal and company finances. However, because of the legal complexities involved and the previous high court ruling, it may be beneficial to seek detailed advice from a local lawyer specializing in corporate law.
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Can I have the new case/application dismissed since he is wasting court resources. He is harassing us with case upon case. In a previous one he was busy trying to bankrupt my father, he could not, my father has nothing.
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You might be able to file a motion to dismiss the case if the creditor is repeatedly filing baseless claims. Here are some steps:
- Document all previous cases and their outcomes.
- Gather evidence of harassment.
- Consult with a lawyer to file a motion to dismiss based on lack of merit.
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So I could file a notice of motion to have him striked
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Yes, you can file a notice of motion to have the case struck out if you believe the claims are baseless and constitute harassment. Here are the steps to consider:
- Documentation: Collect all previous case records and evidence of harassment.
- Legal Grounds: State the lack of merit clearly in your motion.
- Consultation: Consulting a local lawyer to help you draft and file the motion would be beneficial.
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Can you please draft me a example please
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Sure, here’s an example of a notice of motion to strike out the case:
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[Your Name]
[Your Address]
[City, State, Zip Code]
[Email Address]
[Phone Number]
[Date]
[Creditor's Name]
[Creditor's Address]
[City, State, Zip Code]
Subject: Notice of Motion to Strike Out Case
To [Creditor's Name],
This notice serves to inform you that I will be filing a motion to strike out the case you have brought against [Your Company Name]. The grounds for this motion are as follows:
*. Lack of Merit: The case lacks substantial evidence and is baseless.
*. Previous Judgements: There have been previous cases judged in our favor, proving no wrongdoing on our part.
*. Harassment: Repeated filing of baseless cases constitutes harassment and wastes court resources.
I request the court to dismiss this case and prevent further baseless claims.
Sincerely,
_________________________
[Your Name]
[Your Title]
[Your Company Name]
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For formal and precise advice, you should consult a local lawyer. Would you like help connecting with a local lawyer for further assistance?
so this can work for the corporate veil/alter ego claim he is trying to bring. he did not try this before in high court but did the liquidation route which failed as he could not bring such according to the high court judge.
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It seems like you have taken significant steps to protect the corporate veil. However, given the legal intricacies, consulting with a local lawyer for tailored advice would be beneficial. Would you like assistance connecting with a local lawyer who can provide more detailed guidance?
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No I was asking if the draft you prepared to strike his application can work for a corporate veil/alter ego claim, since his liquidation attempt failed previously since he could not bring the case according to the high court judge.
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The draft I provided can help in striking out the creditor's application. However, for a corporate veil/alter ego claim, it is crucial to highlight the separation of personal and company finances and the lack of any fraudulent activity. Consulting with a local lawyer to refine the motion and ensure all bases are covered would be highly beneficial.
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so his case can go on even though the company owns him nothing?
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The case may proceed if the creditor can argue valid grounds. However, given the clear separation of personal and company finances and previous rulings, your position seems strong.
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so I cannot stop any high court proceedings? He is harassing us on a constant basis, this case is very well baseless like previous ones.
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You might be able to stop the proceedings by filing a motion to dismiss based on the case being baseless and harassing.
- Consider gathering all documentation of previous cases and outcomes.
- Show clear evidence of harassment.
- Consult a lawyer to file the motion properly.
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he comes to my place where I stay, and speaks with people here about us. Thats harassment.
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That's definitely harassment and can be addressed legally. You may want to consider filing for a restraining order against the creditor for harassment.
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even if my father stays with me at same address? he says we are criminals in our faces. and that me and the company will still face lots of problems
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It sounds like you have a strong case for harassment, especially with the creditor's repeated baseless claims and personal harassment. Would you like to be connected to local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
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so this can help to strike his latest case?
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It seems like you have a strong case to file a motion to strike out the latest application due to its baseless nature and ongoing harassment. Would you like to be connected to local lawyers who can better assist you with your case?
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what does the case strength mean in top right corner here?
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The case strength indicator in the top right corner provides an estimate of the overall strength of your case based on the information provided. The scale helps to determine how strong or weak your case might be, with * indicating a very strong case.
Your situation seems to have substantial legal grounds, but due to its complexity and the ongoing harassment, it might be beneficial to consult with a local lawyer to ensure all legal aspects are properly addressed.
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so my case for the company is strong against this creditor?
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Your case seems strong given the separation of personal and company finances, previous high court rulings, and the baseless nature of the creditor's claims. However, due to the ongoing harassment and legal complexities, consulting a local lawyer for tailored advice would be beneficial.
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In case there is blood work that needs to be done, ie my father as volunteer for me in company as was described, and a emergency, should I pay the pathologists for this or the company given corporate veil scenario?
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It’s likely that you should personally pay the pathologists, particularly since your father is a volunteer and not formally compensated by the company. This approach maintains a clear separation between personal and company finances.
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Say if it was done already, can I myself pay this back into company bank account and what/how should this look like? What reference or description for deposit sake to rectify it in case company funds was used to pay for this pathologists.
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To rectify the situation, you can reimburse the company if you accidentally used company funds for your father's personal expenses. Follow these steps:
- Make a personal deposit into the company bank account for the same amount.
- Use a reference like "Reimbursement for [Father's Name] Medical Expense" or "Correction of Payment - Personal Expense."
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so this will rectify it?
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Yes, reimbursing the company for the amount used for your father's personal medical expenses should rectify the situation. Ensure the reference clearly states that it’s a reimbursement for personal expenses to maintain transparency.
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and if a actual worker needs to be screened?
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If an actual worker needs to be screened, it's important to follow proper procedures:
- Consent: Ensure you have the worker's consent for any screening process.
- Legal Compliance: Follow California's laws on employee background checks and screenings.
- Documentation: Keep thorough records of the screening process and results.
Do you need more specific legal information on employee screening in California?
so then the company pays for it?
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Yes, if the screening is for an actual worker and is related to their employment, the company should pay for it as part of its business expenses. Would you like more detailed advice from a local lawyer to ensure compliance with California laws?
may this creditor pay a third party to spy on us like a hacker, placing him as a so called neighbor next to me, then spying on my business operations?
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It is illegal for a creditor to hire someone to spy on you, hack your systems, or engage in any form of harassment or invasion of privacy. California has strict laws against such actions, and you may have grounds for legal action against the creditor.
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can it be seen criminal if they intercept phone calls and or worse place spyware on our phones?
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Yes, it is a criminal offense to intercept phone calls and place spyware on phones without consent. These actions violate privacy laws and can lead to serious legal consequences.
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what happens if neither me or my father attends the high court hearing for this civil matter?
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If neither you nor your father attends the high court hearing for this civil matter:
- The court may proceed with the hearing in your absence.
- A default judgment could be issued against you.
- You might lose any chance to present your side of the case.
Consider attending the hearing or consulting with a lawyer to avoid unfavorable outcomes. Would you like to connect with local lawyers for more detailed advice?
what would a default judgment look like?
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A default judgment typically includes:
- A ruling in favor of the plaintiff.
- An order for the defendant to pay the claimed amount or perform specific actions.
- Potential additional court costs and fees.
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who would pay this? the debt is not with me?
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If the debt is not with you and neither you nor your company signed any agreement related to the debt, you should not be personally liable for it. However, if a default judgment is issued, it could still affect you if not properly addressed. Consulting with a lawyer is crucial in this case.
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can they issue a warrant for arrest? if we dont attend in this civil matter for the another attempt to liquidate/corporate veil matter?
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In civil matters, typically no arrest warrants are issued for failing to attend a hearing. However:
- The court may proceed in your absence.
- A default judgment could be issued against you.
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so why did they for small claims given debt wanted to arrest my father when he could not attend being sick
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In California, a bench warrant can be issued for failing to appear in court, even in small claims cases. This is more likely if the court believes the absence is intentional or there's a history of non-compliance.
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