Landlord Backdating Lease Issue

Summary

New landlord backdated lease to charge move-in fee and increased rent. Ohio law prohibits charging for periods before ownership. Seek legal advice for eviction threats. Document all communications and consider contacting local legal aid organizations for assistance.

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Yes my new landlord has back dated my new lease an trying to charge me a move in fee an I have lived here * yrs my house was sold July 5th an the new landlord back dated it to July first an trying to make me pay her rent when she didn't or don't own the house yet,
What state are you located in, ****? This will help me provide the most accurate information regarding your landlord-tenant rights.
Zanesville ohio
What proof do you have of your original move-in date and the date the house was sold?

In Ohio, landlords cannot charge for periods they didn't own the property.
I have lived here since *
What is the date on the lease agreement with your new landlord? In Ohio, landlords cannot charge for periods they didn't own the property.
She put July first but the house did not sell until July the 5th
Do you have any written proof showing the house was sold on July 5th?

In Ohio, landlords cannot:
- Charge rent for periods they didn't own the property.
- Backdate leases to charge additional rent.
Yes
What steps have you taken so far to address this issue with your new landlord?
I have tried to tell her all of this but she keeps threatening me with eviction she is even trying to force me to do things that are not stated in the new lease
What are the things she is trying to force you to do that are not stated in the lease? In Ohio, landlords cannot enforce terms not included in the lease agreement.
Get a checking account pay by portal or echeck an none of this in my lease says I half to do this, it says I can pay by check or money order an she said she will not except it an will evict me if I don't do it her way
What proof do you have that your lease agreement allows payment by check or money order? In Ohio, landlords must accept rent in the form agreed in the lease.
It's stated in my lease that I can pay by money order or a check, there is nothing in my lease that says I half to pay by portal or echeck
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the payment method?
It says that tenant my pay by check or money order
What is the name and contact information of your new landlord?
Idk she won't tell me she even refuses to give me a copy of my lease
What steps have you taken to request a copy of your lease from your landlord?
I have ask her several times for a copy for the welfare an SSI office an community action
What is the response of your landlord when you ask for a copy of the lease?
She said print it off from my phone an it's way to small of a print to even see it
What is the name of the property management company or the real estate agency that your landlord is associated with?
Mos reality in Newark ohio
What is the exact amount your new landlord is trying to charge you as a move-in fee?
*.* dollars an I was already living her when she bought the property, I have lived here * yrs
What is the exact address of the property you are living in?
* Moxahala Ave Zanesville Ohio
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the move-in fee?
She said I had to pay *.* dollars for a move in fee as of July first an the house did not sell until July 5th
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the move-in fee?
That I had to pay a move in fee of *.* dollars
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the move-in fee?
I just told you
I apologize for the repetition. Have you considered seeking legal advice from a local attorney or tenant rights organization?
Yes but can't find anyone to help me
Have you tried contacting Southeastern Ohio Legal Services? They provide free legal help to low-income individuals. Their Zanesville office can be reached at (*) *-*.
Yes an have not heard anything back
Have you tried reaching out to other local legal aid organizations or the Ohio State Bar Association for assistance? They might be able to provide you with further guidance or resources.
No because the people in this town are crooks an the judges always sides with the landlord weather there wrong or not
Have you considered reaching out to legal aid organizations outside of your town or contacting the Ohio State Bar Association's Lawyer Referral Service?
No
What is the exact amount of rent your new landlord is charging you?
Well she's trying to charge me *.* move in fee for July an *.* for August
What is the usual rent you've been paying before the new landlord took over?
*.*
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the monthly rent amount?
My old landlord charged me *.* an this new landlord took over a raised my rent *.* dollars an won't do any repairs,
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the landlord's responsibility for repairs?
Nothing an I read they have 30 days to start all repairs an my house needs more repairs then anything, it's not fit for human consumption it's falling apart an unsafe
What specific repairs does your house need? In Ohio, landlords are generally responsible for maintaining the property in a habitable condition.
New windows new floors new ceiling new wireing new plumbing new foundation new doors , it's infested with roaches mice rats bed bugs spiders bee's the wiring is bad the plumbing is worse an the floor are bad everything is bad in this house
Have you reported these issues to your landlord or any local health or housing authority? In Ohio, landlords are required to maintain rental properties in a habitable condition.
Yes to the new landlord but the old landlord has never made any repairs in * yrs an if I turn her in to city code they will shut this house down an I will be homeless with my * dogs who I've had since I have lived here
What steps have you taken to document the condition of the house and the lack of repairs?
I have taken pictures of the damages
What response did you receive from your landlord after reporting these issues?
I got no response
What is the condition of the house currently and have you considered reporting these issues to the local health department or housing authority?
It's in bad condition
What specific issues make the house in bad condition?
The rook leaks the wiring is bad the plumbing is bad
Have you reported these issues to your local health department or housing authority? In Ohio, landlords are required to maintain rental properties in a habitable condition.
Once again no
Why haven't you reported these issues to your local health department or housing authority? It's important to report such conditions for your safety and to hold the landlord accountable.
Because they will comdime it an make me move out
What alternative housing options have you considered if you have to move out?
I have nowhere else to go
What steps have you taken to find alternative housing options in case you need to move out?
None I have tried to find another place but no luck
What is the reason for not being able to find another place?
Rent to high an I have * dogs, I'm on disability an have a limited income
Have you looked into any housing assistance programs or shelters that accept pets in your area?
Yes an I can't afford to move they are asking way to much or I can't have my dogs
What is the maximum amount you can afford for rent and the move-in fee?
Nothing over *.*
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a monthly rent?
*.*
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a move-in fee?
Depends on how much it is I only get *.* a month
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a move-in fee considering your monthly income?
Not much
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a move-in fee considering your monthly income and expenses?
None
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a move-in fee considering your monthly income and expenses?
I just said none
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a security deposit?
None
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a security deposit considering your monthly income and expenses?
None of I can't make payments
What is the maximum amount you can afford for a security deposit if you can make payments?
Maybe *.* dollars a month
What is the maximum duration you can afford to make these payments?

In Ohio, landlords can't charge more than one month's rent as a security deposit.
My new landlord is trying to make me pay a move in fee of *.* dollars when I already lived here before she bought it, can she charge me a move in fee if I already lived here before she bought it
What does your lease agreement say about move-in fees? In Ohio, landlords can't charge fees not mentioned in the lease.
She said I had to pay a move in fee for July when I already lived here
What does your lease agreement say about the increase in rent?
Basically it says my rent went up *.* dollars, she is a money hungry person, she trys to get all the money she can from her tenants that she can an she is not even from America she is here on a green card an trying to rip off all her tenants, she won't even give me a copy of my lease for government reasons an she won't lete pay by money order cause she does not want anyone to know where she lives
What steps have you taken to report these issues to the local housing authority or a legal professional? In Ohio, landlords are required to provide a copy of the lease and cannot increase rent without proper notice.
None I don't know how to that's why I'm contacting legal help, an she never gave me any kind of notice on rent increase she just did it without contacting me
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding rent increase? In Ohio, landlords must provide at least 30 days' notice before increasing rent.
She just sent it to me on a portal an said this is what I half to pay
What is the name of the portal where she sent you the information about the rent increase?
Mos reality
What is the exact wording in the message she sent you about the rent increase on the Mos reality portal?
She never sent a message she just sent me the new lease through a portal an it said I had to pay *.* a month,
What is the date on the new lease agreement she sent you through the portal?
July first an the house did not sell until July 5th
What actions have you taken since receiving the new lease with the increased rent?
None she keeps threatening me with eviction
What is the exact wording of the eviction threat your landlord has given you?
She said if I didn't pay *.* for July move in fee an August rent of *.* she was gonna start an eviction on me,
What is the exact wording in the eviction notice you received?
If I did t pay the move in fee an the *.* for August she was gonna start an eviction an contact her lawyer to start the process
Have you received any formal eviction notice in writing from your landlord or her lawyer?
No
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding eviction procedures?
She said she would have her lawyer start the process
What is the exact date you received this eviction threat from your landlord?
August 7th or 8th
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the eviction process?
I don't know the exact words she used I have it all in screen shots
Could you please share the screenshots of the eviction process mentioned in your lease? This will help me provide you with more accurate information.
I can try
What is the exact wording in the eviction notice or threat that you received from your landlord?
She said if I didn't pay *.* by today she was gonna evict me
What is the exact date she demanded the payment of *.* by?
She wants it today or she is gonna start the eviction
What is the exact amount she is asking for today and for what specific charges?
She wants *.* dollars today for a move in fee for July an *.* for rent for August
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the move-in fee and the monthly rent amount?
This house did not sell until July 5th
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the move-in fee and the monthly rent amount?
I just told you all of that
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the eviction process?
I just told you all of that to
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the eviction process? This information is crucial to understand your rights and obligations.
That if I did t pay on time an pay a move in fee I would be evicted,
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the notice period for eviction? In Ohio, landlords must provide a *-day notice to vacate before filing an eviction lawsuit.
I don't really of it
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the notice period for eviction?
I don't know it's all to complicated
What is the exact wording in the eviction notice you received from your landlord?
I haven't received a notice yet, she trying to make me pay either through a portal or by echeck an there is nothing in my lease that says I half to pay that way an she said she will not except it any other way but here way, she is forcing me to change all my banking information to just pay rent
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the method of rent payment?
It says I can pay by check or money order nothing mentioned about a portal or echeck
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the method of rent payment?
I just told you it says tenant can pay by check or money order an she said she won't except that an will start eviction
What is the exact wording in the eviction threat your landlord has given you?
That if I didn't pay it her way I was getting evicted
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the method of rent payment?
I just told you that it says I can pay by check or money order
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the consequences of not paying rent in the method specified by the landlord?
There isn't any them are in her words not the lease
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the consequences of not paying rent in the method specified by the landlord?
None it's her words not in my lease
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the consequences of not paying rent on time?
That I would be charged *.* dollars
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the late fee for not paying rent on time?
That I would be charged *.* if rent is late
What is the grace period mentioned in your lease for late rent payment? In Ohio, landlords can charge a late fee only after rent is late by the period mentioned in the lease.
None
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the grace period for late rent payment?
None there is no grace period
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the eviction process if rent is not paid on time?
That I would be charged a late fee
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the eviction process if rent is not paid on time?
Nothing that I know of.
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the eviction process if rent is not paid on time?
Look I know your trying to help me but you keep asking me the same question after I have given you an answer
I apologize for the repetition. Have you considered filing a complaint with the Ohio Attorney General's Office regarding your landlord's actions?
No I don't know how to I need all the legal help I can get
What is the exact wording in your lease regarding the landlord's responsibility for repairs?
Well nothing that I know of but I googled it an it says a new landlord has 30 days to start repairs
What specific repairs are needed in your property? In Ohio, landlords are required to keep rental properties in a safe and habitable condition.
Everything
What steps have you taken to document the condition of the property and the needed repairs?
I have taken pictures an wrote down all the repairs that needs done
What is the response of your landlord when you presented the pictures and list of repairs needed?
None
None
She didn't respond
Yes my new landlord is trying to bully me cause I won't jump through hoops for her, she said she is gonna evict, which I have tried to give her the rent money an since I won't pay my rent the way she wants me to she said she is going to evict me, what can I do to stop her from bulling me an evicting me
What state are you located in? This will help me provide you with the most accurate information regarding tenant rights and eviction laws in your area.
Ohio
What method does your landlord want you to use to pay your rent?

In Ohio, landlords must accept rent payments in any legal form unless specified otherwise in the lease.
She wants it either through a portal or echeck an with echeck I half to give her all my banking information that I don't feel comfortable doing, an it does not state in my lease that I signed that I half to pay her rent that way,
Have you communicated your discomfort about sharing your banking information with your landlord in writing?

- In Ohio, landlords cannot force a specific payment method unless stated in the lease.
- For eviction issues, contact Franklin County Municipal Court: (*) *-*.
Yes I have an when I said it to her she said she was going to evict me because I won't pay my rent the way she wants me to an there is nothing in my lease that says I half to
Have you received any formal eviction notice from your landlord?

- In Ohio, landlords must provide a three-day notice to vacate before filing an eviction lawsuit.
- For legal assistance, contact Legal Aid Society of Columbus: (*) *-*.
Nope she just told me * min ago she was going to evict me
Has she provided you with a written three-day notice to vacate? In Ohio, this is a requirement before a landlord can file an eviction lawsuit.
No
In Ohio, landlords must provide a written three-day notice to vacate before filing an eviction lawsuit. If you haven't received this, she can't legally evict you yet.
She just told me this * min ago
What is the exact wording she used when she told you about the eviction?
When I told her I wasn't going to give her my banking information she said she is gonna evict me
Did she communicate this eviction threat in writing or verbally?
Writing
What is the exact wording she used in the written eviction threat?
I just told you, when I told her she wasn't getting my bank information she said she was going to evict me
Did she provide a specific timeline for eviction in her written communication?
No
What is the exact date you received this written eviction threat?
*-*-*
What is the exact wording of the written eviction threat you received from your landlord?
Man I just told what she said, when I told her she was not getting my bank information she said she was going to evict me
Did she mention any legal grounds for eviction in her written communication?
No
What is the duration of your lease agreement?
I told her she didn't have any grounds to evict me
What is the exact date your lease agreement ends?
I don't know I know it's a yr lease
When did you start your lease agreement?
August 8th or 9th is when I signed it
What is the exact date you moved into the property?
November 1rst *
What is the exact date your lease agreement with the new landlord started?
August 8th *
What is the exact wording of the lease agreement regarding the method of rent payment?
It only says I can pay through a check or money order nothing else in there about any other method
What is the exact date you tried to pay your rent and she refused it?
Today
What is the exact amount of rent you tried to pay today?
*.* dollars
What is the frequency of your rent payment? Is it monthly or weekly?
*.* but she is trying to make me *.* for the month of July, starting July 1rst but she didn't own this house on that date this house was not sold until July 5th of *
What is the exact wording in your lease agreement regarding the amount and frequency of rent payment?
That I half to pay *.* for July an *.* for August
What is the exact wording in your lease agreement regarding the start date of your lease?
The first of every month but I was having trouble with my email address an she knew I was, but she is bullying me about it,
What is the exact wording in your lease agreement regarding the consequences of not paying rent in the manner specified by the landlord?
That I would be charged a late fee if not payed
What is the exact amount of the late fee as stated in your lease agreement?
*.* dollars
What is the exact wording in your lease agreement regarding eviction procedures?
I don't I can't remember
Can you provide a copy of your lease agreement for review? This will help us understand the terms and conditions related to eviction procedures.
It all in screen shots I don't how to send them to you, I'm not good at stuff like that
Do you have a friend or family member who could help you send the screenshots? It's important for us to review the lease agreement to provide accurate advice.
I think so
Can you ask them to help you send the screenshots of your lease agreement? This will help us understand your situation better and provide accurate advice.
Yes hang on
What is the exact wording in your lease agreement regarding the method of rent payment?
Sorry I clicked out
No problem, ****. Do you have any updates or further questions about your situation with your landlord?
Yes you td me to send screenshots of my lease so you could help me
Sure, ****. Could you please tell me which state you're in so I can provide accurate information about your lease issue?
Ohio
What specific part of your lease are you concerned about?
Where my landlord is trying to evict me cause I won't jump through hoops for her an she is bullying me
What specific actions has your landlord taken that you consider as bullying?
She threatened me with eviction if I don't pay the rent the way she wants me to, an there is nothing in my lease that says I half to pay my rent the way she wants me to
What method of payment is your landlord insisting on and what method have you been using?

In Ohio, unless specified in the lease, tenants can generally pay rent in any form they choose.
She wants me to pay by portal or echeck an she's mad cause I won't give her my banking information so she said she's going to evict me
What does your lease agreement specify about the mode of payment for rent?
That I can pay by check or money order an she said she won't except it that way for some kind of security reasons
What does your lease agreement say about changes to the payment method? In Ohio, landlords cannot change the payment method without your agreement.
Nothing
What steps have you taken so far in response to your landlord's actions?
None cause I don't know what to do
What evidence do you have of your landlord's threats and refusal to accept your rent payments?
I have screen shots
What do these screenshots show? It's important to have evidence of any threats or refusals to accept rent payments.
That I tried to pay her with a money order an she said she won't except it
What is the exact wording of the lease regarding the payment method?
It says that I can pay by money order or a check
What is the exact date of your lease agreement?
I signed it August 8th or 9th I think
What is the duration of your lease agreement?
A yr I think
What is the exact end date of your lease agreement?
I don't know
Can you please check your lease agreement for the exact end date? It's important to know this information.
The last I tried to look for whoever I was talking to before an it clicked me out an I had to start over
I'm sorry for the inconvenience. Can you please confirm the exact end date of your lease agreement?
I can try but it will click me out
What is the exact wording in your lease agreement regarding changes to the payment method?
None, it says in my lease that I can pay by money order or a check
What actions has your landlord taken to initiate the eviction process?
I don't know she only said she was evicting me
What was the reason your landlord gave for the eviction? In Ohio, landlords must provide a valid reason for eviction, such as non-payment of rent or violation of lease terms.
I told her I wasn't going to give her my banking information an that's when she told me she was going to evict me
What is the exact wording of the eviction notice you received from your landlord?
She sent me a message telling me nothing in writing
What is the content of the message your landlord sent you regarding eviction?
She told me she was going to evict me because I told her I wasn't giving her my bank information
What is the exact wording of the message where she threatened eviction? In Ohio, landlords must provide a written notice to evict. Verbal threats may not hold up in court.
I just told you, I told her I wasn't going to her my banking information so she said she was going to evict me
What is the date of this message where she threatened eviction?
*-*-*
What actions have you taken since receiving this eviction threat on *-*-*?
None I contacted you
What is your landlord's full name and address? This information is crucial for any legal proceedings.
I don't she won't even give me a lease
What is the name of your landlord as mentioned in the lease agreement?
Sophie halpin
What is the address of the property you are renting from Sophie Halpin?
* Moxahala Ave Zanesville Ohio
What is the exact wording in the lease agreement regarding eviction procedures?